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Thank you for the replies and information . I am not new but am not by any means a pro user ether but as far as your suggestions 1. I would not post an email add that i would worry about but thanks for the advise . 2 yes I did used the aswclear6 exe .3 I have never had any other antivirus protection on this machine. until now and i will say it is use less and not to discredit any one but M.S.E is what I have resorted to and am completely unimpressed . 4 as i said in my post this is a complete clean install of windows 7 and prior to install I formatted the HD completely so no i have had no other anti spy ware other than what comes with windows and any other software -firewall ect . 5 prior to any other action I up dated windows with all patches and sp1 . 6 when I uninstall any program i use revo and after i use ccleaner to follow up and then winutillities as a final sweep so yes as far as I can tell i have followed pretty much any and all action that one can take ? but now I have the problem of getting rid of M.S.E when I am ready . but as i said avast 6 worked perfect as an upgrade from 5x before the fresh install of windows but after the clean install of windows 7 I installed a clean install of avast 6 and thats when the problems stated . as I said avast is the only antivirus I have ever used and would stand by it no matter what but I just do not under stand what is happening ??? so I have decided to try one more time and install avast 6 only because this important to me and I trust this antivirus over any other . so any advice on how to completely remove M.S.E from my system ? Thank you in advance to all and god bless .