Avast Firefox Plugin issue since recent program update.

DavidR · 2014-03-21T13:22:27.000Z

Totenmaske post:3:

I mean this page for the avast! Security Plugin plugin 9.0.2016.82. It constantly reopens even after closure of the webpage and browser. Meaning when you close Firefox, and open it later (after closing the webpage tab) it will reopen along with the users default homepage tab/webpage. It behaves perfectly in Chrome, but on multiple computers (8 separate systems now) I have updated or seen updated to yesterday’s update experience this issue on Firefox only. Disabling the plugin from within Firefox is the only way to prevent the aos.avast.com/upgrade/2006 from loading.

For me that only opened once, when I enabled the AOS add-on after the avast update (I had it disabled before the update) and not again since (having closed that tab).

Whilst it might well have something to do with cookies, but that should only relate to a specific sites AOS settings. This shouldn’t mean the AOS add-on welcome screen (when first enabled) would always load.

Also the firefox History setting I would have though that would be more likely to stop opening it as the history isn’t remembered (when firefox is closed), so it should open with a single blank tab.

I don’t clear history when I close firefox, I use CookieMonster (CM) to manage cookies, in CM I have allowed cookies for avast.com, forum.avast.com. I also have some of my regular sites allowed in CM, otherwise by default only session cookies are allowed, which would be removed when firefox is closed.

I prefer to use CM to manage cookies rather than firefox as it is more customisable.

chris... · 2014-03-21T17:36:54.000Z

DavidR post:7:

For me that only opened once, when I enabled the AOS add-on after the avast update (I had it disabled before the update) and not again since (having closed that tab).

Hello,
for now , does your AOS add-on always enabled or disabled again?
For me , if I disable it , no more AOS tab when I open Firefox even after deleted cookies.

Do not use AOS is an other solution for this tab

DavidR · 2014-03-21T18:54:03.000Z

My AOS add-on is enabled and no AOS intro tab.

I suggest that you investigate the various cookie/history comments and see if there is one that may resolve it.

system · 2014-03-21T19:26:49.000Z

Set Firefox to accept cookies from sites but never accept third party cookies, and stop clearing your cookies. That’s all the cookie security you need.

chris... · 2014-03-21T21:52:39.000Z

DavidR post:9:

My AOS add-on is enabled and no AOS intro tab.

I suggest that you investigate the various cookie/history comments and see if there is one that may resolve it.

Oups , I did not fully read what you said especially:

in CM I have allowed cookies for avast.com, forum.avast.com

sorry

system · 2014-03-26T19:36:45.000Z

I agree with those who would prefer an addon from avast! that didn’t require us to maintain a cookie for the addon inside the browser itself. I mean, this isn’t a site that we’re trying to retain settings for - it’s just an addon/extension for the bowser, which is installed by software that already has full access in the operating system. Why should I have to turn off Private Browsing Mode or use a 3rd party cookie managing addon/extension to retain this one cookie, when the application could easily retain the information using the numerous other storage options that exist with its level of access. It could have the settings for the browser-specific addons in the existing avast! UI (which already has the page for enabling the per-browser extensions), or it could keep the settings in the Add-ons Manager tab which has been part of Firefox for… years?

Seriously, all the comments about cookie management are missing the point for the simple fact that the avast! developers are not some silly know-nothing kids who don’t know any better. They’re experienced developers who are fighting the black-hat world in exchange for a little profit. That being said, they don’t need us to make excuses for them and work-arounds in a situation like this (talking about the usage of browser cookies to store persistent data - what is this, the 90’s?). Say it plainly. “I’d like an addon that doesn’t make me give up my existing and beloved settings”. From there, they’ll either indulge you or they won’t. But let’s not pretend that there are no other options on their end.

system · 2014-03-27T06:38:44.000Z

Type “about:config” in address bar

promise to be careful

scroll down to “browser.startup.homepage_override.buildID;20140314220517”. Right click on it and select “reset”.

scroll down one below to “browser.startup.homepage_override.mstone;28.0” and do the same thing.

Close then reopen Firefox. You’ll see 2 tabs appear the 1st time, but that should be it…

When you reset these strings, you will need to modify your preferences again within Firefox (such as your homepage).

system · 2014-04-03T18:45:51.000Z

kennyJT post:13:

Type “about:config” in address bar

promise to be careful

scroll down to “browser.startup.homepage_override.buildID;20140314220517”. Right click on it and select “reset”.

scroll down one below to “browser.startup.homepage_override.mstone;28.0” and do the same thing.

Close then reopen Firefox. You’ll see 2 tabs appear the 1st time, but that should be it…

When you reset these strings, you will need to modify your preferences again within Firefox (such as your homepage).

This did not work. Again, Private Browsing.

system · 2014-04-03T23:10:21.000Z

I have little doubt that some will take offense at this, but here goes anyway:-

IMHO, if you’re going to be paranoid about cookies you have to be prepared to accept some consequences. For some time (years) now I have allowed site cookies in Firefox, but rejected third-party cookies. I don’t get spammed. I don’t get phished. Adblock Plus handles most ads. Very occasionally SuperAntiSpyware (IMHO the most aggressive cookie hunter out there) deletes a couple of doubtful cookies. MalwareBytes and Emsisoft never find any. I run full scans with all three of them in rotation every second night. Benefit:- I don’t have to log in every time I visit the several forums and news sites I visit.

But of course I have also disabled AOS, so I don’t have this particular issue anyway. Avast have simply tried to pack too much into it.

DavidR · 2014-04-04T13:16:58.000Z

@ Paul_D
MalwareBytes won’t find any cookies because it isn’t looking for them.

Cookies really aren’t a big deal, just deny 3rd party cookies and the so called tracking cookies aren’t getting a look in and SuperAntiSpyware (SAS) is unlikely to find much in the way of cookies. I always disabled SAS from even looking for cookies, I eventually removed SAS Pro as cookies were the only thing that it was finding. Having stopped SAS from even looking for cookies, it seemed a little pointless having it installed.

system · 2014-04-04T16:54:31.000Z

DavidR post:16:

@ Paul_D
Cookies really aren’t a big deal, just deny 3rd party cookies and the so called tracking cookies aren’t getting a look in and SuperAntiSpyware (SAS) is unlikely to find much in the way of cookies. I always disabled SAS from even looking for cookies, I eventually removed SAS Pro as cookies were the only thing that it was finding. Having stopped SAS from even looking for cookies, it seemed a little pointless having it installed.

Agreed. Absolutely. That was my point.

robertg106 · 2014-04-05T15:32:52.000Z

DavidR post:16:

Cookies really aren’t a big deal, just deny 3rd party cookies and the so called tracking cookies aren’t getting a look in

I’m getting sorts of problems initially described in this thread too after the latest (free) program update, with a popup proclaiming a Browser add on is a problem. Clicking the button to clean, but runs for ages before it freezes, becoming unresponsive. Being unable to stop it, restarting the PC takes several goes after that. Then it settles. It did the same today after the update yesterday.

Regarding cookie settings in Firefox, I have always had accept third party cookies enabled. Not really sure what having them disabled will do, or not do, or is the halfway house of visited best? So many sites ask you to accept cookies now and some rely on them (Quidco).

system · 2014-04-05T16:38:40.000Z

rob24 post:18:

DavidR post:16:

Cookies really aren’t a big deal, just deny 3rd party cookies and the so called tracking cookies aren’t getting a look in

I’m getting sorts of problems initially described in this thread too after the latest (free) program update, with a popup proclaiming a Browser add on is a problem. Clicking the button to clean, but runs for ages before it freezes, becoming unresponsive. Being unable to stop it, restarting the PC takes several goes after that. Then it settles. It did the same today after the update yesterday.

Regarding cookie settings in Firefox, I have always had accept third party cookies enabled. Not really sure what having them disabled will do, or not do, or is the halfway house of visited best? So many sites ask you to accept cookies now and some rely on them (Quidco).

Third party cookies are what the name implies - cookies from sites other than the one you are visiting. If a site you are visiting relies on a third party cookie for anything it is acting unconscionably and is not worth visiting. Stop accepting them for a bit and see what effect it has on your browsing. The world will not come to an end…

But having said all that, the answer to your particular problem is to deactivate AOS. It’s simply more trouble than it is worth.

DavidR · 2014-04-05T17:03:39.000Z

rob24 post:18:

Regarding cookie settings in Firefox, I have always had accept third party cookies enabled. Not really sure what having them disabled will do, or not do, or is the halfway house of visited best? So many sites ask you to accept cookies now and some rely on them (Quidco).

Essentially 3rd party cookies can track your movements/activity across many sites. Hence the name tracking cookies.

I would still disable them, even if a particular function requires 3rd party cookie use and instead make exceptions for cookies for Quidco, etc. rather than allow everything.

Unfortunately the firefox cookie options are pretty poor, with very little flexibility/configuration; this is why I use the CookieMonster add-on for firefox as it gives you far greater flexibility/configuration, see my Reply #6 of this topic.

robertg106 · 2014-04-05T22:53:35.000Z

DavidR post:20:

Essentially 3rd party cookies can track your movements/activity across many sites. Hence the name tracking cookies.

I would still disable them, even if a particular function requires 3rd party cookie use and instead make exceptions for cookies for Quidco, etc. rather than allow everything.

Unfortunately the firefox cookie options are pretty poor, with very little flexibility/configuration; this is why I use the CookieMonster add-on for firefox as it gives you far greater flexibility/configuration, see my Reply #6 of this topic.

Have changed my cookie settings as per your screenshot except do I also need to set 'tell sites I do not want to be tracked to allow CookieMonster (now just installed) to work? BTW why does your FF setting screen in Reply #6 look different to mine (attached).

DavidR · 2014-04-05T23:22:34.000Z

You don’t need to have FF tell sites not to track you, but personally I feel there are many sites that would love to be able to use your activity to build a history.

CookieMonster and do not track are completely separate so you don’t have to set do not track to use CookieMonster.

I don’t see any attached image that you say was attached. That however can have many reasons, some add-ons in firefox may give additional options/settings; the Operating System and or using a different Theme in your operating system can change the look of the displayed window.

robertg106 · 2014-04-06T01:14:31.000Z

@DavidR
Thank you. Here’s the missing attachment.

system · 2014-04-06T05:12:15.000Z

Rob24. In your settings, having “Keep Cookies” set to “Until I close Firefox” really defeats many of the purposes of site cookies. Mine are set to keep until they expire (remembering that you are already rejecting third-party cookies anyway).

Just one example:- Login cookies. These are created when you tick “Remember Me” when you log into a site.

robertg106 · 2014-04-06T13:53:23.000Z

Paul_D post:24:

Rob24. In your settings, having “Keep Cookies” set to “Until I close Firefox” really defeats many of the purposes of site cookies. Mine are set to keep until they expire (remembering that you are already rejecting third-party cookies anyway).

Just one example:- Login cookies. These are created when you tick “Remember Me” when you log into a site.

Think I had it set to ‘until they expire’ before I changed accept third party to ‘never’.

I’m also still getting this pop up again today (which I ignored due problems it causes in using the ‘Remove bad Add-onns’ button.

system · 2014-04-06T16:46:34.000Z

Not offended just some of us prefer privacy when you have multi users. With cookies some of us can reconstruct quite a bit about your session. And don’t come off with the, well you shouldn’t do blah blah things if you don’t want to have someone find it. That is like telling a person to poof stop having any thoughts in there head.

Okay moving on from this AVAST needs to simply remove this garbage spam. I shouldn’t have to allow security exceptions to have my security software function…

I fear that AVAST is going the way of norton, which is to say spammy to big for their collective britches, and not that great a software.

I hyped this software for about 10 years now but this year it has caused so many issues with my main uses, it has more and more bloat. It is just becoming a not good AV. I have to stop suggesting this as an AV for a while and see if I can find another good company that hasn’t grown big enough to lose control of their purpose.

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