Could you elaborate on why you would suggest that? I work on a lot of people’s PC’s and I can’t tell you how many I have cleaned up with SB. Just recently, I worked on one that SB was the only thing that cleaned a piece of malware off of it. Avast couldn’t find it and neither could Malwarebytes. SB nailed it. I know that SB is very dated but I think it is still an effective scanner. I agree that the teatimer is nothing but a problem. As for ZA, it is still a far superior firewall than the lame one that comes with WinXP. The one that comes with Win7 I know is much better but for people still running XP I still think ZA is a better choice.