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Oh, no, it's only used to show my preference and personality. You're thinking of tooooo much. Also, I can't understand what you mean. Should there be anything wrong or inaccurate, point it out instead of posting hosts of balderdash

I also think that MBAM is an amazing piece of software. It is not intended to be used in place of an AV it is a complement and a back up to your AV software. It’s main benefit is that it is far better at removing malware that has somehow worked it’s way into your system than all of the AV’s that I know of. As was said here earlier, it doesn’t detect a lot of older in the wild things because all of the AV’s should be detecting and blocking them.

As was said here earlier, it doesn't detect a lot of older in the wild things because all of the AV's should be detecting and blocking them.
No no no, it is not the point. As I said, all the samples were collected among one month. That is, the 'oldest' was only 30 days old, is it considered to be too old? What I meant is, it is not at all effective in China, yet it got its Chinese version... If you want, I can send you a list of viruses personally and you could see how tragic the detection rate of MBAM could be. And also Avast!. Usually, it takes (at least) three days for avast! to pick up all the viruses missed by its first scan.

Any antivirus/antimalware tool is going to be good or bad depending on the type of malware in the wild in the places where people use it. If , for example, chinese people use other products, those are going to be better at dealing with stuff than the ones europeans/americans might use since Rising may get more samples than Avast. Any product like this will only get better if the community grows so more and more samples are submitted. Of course, being able to submit samples also means helping you AV products with a behavior analyser/blocker or a HIPS product which are designed to contain 0-day threats.

Yeah, that’s it…
But one thing to note: most Chinese use Qihoo 360 (which got two engines: that of Bitdefender and database,and its own cloud-based engine and cloud-based virus definitions), not Rising… Also, it’s completely free…
It seems that Rising got perfect Pbulic Relation officials…

I just used “Rising” as a placeholder, as it was the only chinese AV product that I knew of.

As a side note and possible followup to what I stated before, this is the way Bitdefender rose up. Initially dealing with “in the wild” threats that affected Romanian companies/users and then marketing itself to other european countries (Spain comes to mind) and after that licensing their engine heavily. The fact that Microsoft bought GeCAD’s RAV product helped too :wink:

Yes, 30 days is ancient in the malware world. A lot of the stuff only has an active life of a few days. When it starts being detected by AV’s, they’re on to something new. I would say that new malware is detected by all the major AV’s within 3 or 4 days after first showing up so even a week is a long time.

Seems the thread diverged from iObit to MBAM ;D

I believe iObit is behaving like Dark Vader…Luke…I’m your father…come and join me to the power of the dark side of the force…evil very evil.

Maybe he knows everything and will take over the world soon

Yes, 30 days is ancient in the malware world. A lot of the stuff only has an active life of a few days.
So you're trying to tell me MBAM is quite sufficient in dealing with new threats? OK, then, post me personally and I'll send you a virus list, so that you will see what would come out, and hopefully that will stop you from be so confident. Didn't you see I had agreed that it was the regions where it's used that mattered? While you're sicking to the point 'Oh, no, MBAM is special but effective anywhere'.

MBAM is not the panacea and never was.
It’s good as a second opinion.
But the best on demand scanner would be www.virustotal.com :slight_smile:

Virustotal can be confusing though. If you submit something there and only a couple or a few of the scanners show a detection, how do you know if it’s really bad and just very new or if those few products are showing false positives? I 've seen both scenarios be true, mostly when the detections are due to heuristics or PUP scanning. I have also seen things detected by many of the scanners that aren’t really harmful malware but things the AV vendors don’t think you should be using.

You don’t konw for sure. But it’s better to rely on 40+ scanners than only in the one in your computer…

You can take the conclusion that the file is only a PUP.
Or, if the malware name is dangerous, conclude that heuristics are detecting a very new malware.

Yes. There is inoffensive keygens/cracks that will be detected. It’s up to you, with the advice of 40+ scanners :slight_smile:

I just bought and removed Advanced SystemCare 3.6.1 PRO & Security 360 1.45 PRO. Security 360 just reporting false positive (767 threats) then in couple days later reported the same 767 threats. I used other major programs such Avira & Avast Internet Security Suite plus MBAM & SuperAntiSpyware to double check the finding from IOBIT…none was detected.

I decided to removed IOBIT from my system completely! I would have never bought IOBIT if I known it came from CHINA. I am an Asian, being used too many FAKE product from China. When it comes to intellectual products and health products I just stay away from it.

I am currently running my browser “CHROME” in Avast Sandbox “Process Virtualization”. I am done with IOBIT…buyer beware!!!

P.S The toll free number for customer support is not even working YET!!! From IOBIT home page, there is nothing mention it is a CHINESE company. People on the sites…are whites. There is no address or contact number for IOBIT. Probably own and run by bunch of college kids.

From IOBIT home page, there is nothing mention it is a CHINESE company. People on the sites....are whites. There is no address or contact number for IOBIT. Probably own and run by bunch of college kids.
Ah, well, the funders were two college students from China, but the company itself was a USA-based, that is, except for its founders, it has nothing to do with China. Also, I assure you that fewer than 1% computer users in China are acquaintant with IOBit. MBAM got to select its dictions more carefully when saying 'a China-based company is stealing our database'. What's more, you have used too many 'fake produdts' ...well, probably (and most likely) that's because you got poor ability when it comes to telling fake AVs.....

I don’t care if it is China or Timbuktu, what they have done in the past, Iobit deserves all the scorn poured on to it. I have no idea of its origins (nor really care), but if it were a US based company do you think MBAM would have had so much of a problem getting Iobit to remove their signatures.