Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)

The things I miss apart from the extra sigs that Avast has is the little blue spinning ball.

After 8 cans of Carlsberg Export I seem to have 2 of them.

Lol let the good times roll…

Which is normal unless you have merged the ‘i’ and ‘a’ icons ;D

No as in my case (when I had avast) the show hidden icon used to hide the I

With the permission of Melih…

Total Signatures: 1,013,164 1,027,031 (edited by Melih…sorry the guys are working extra this weekend!!! )
Total Whitelisted Files: 1,107,514 (Currently in the CIS beta)

Remember the signatures include genetic signatures (1 signature could mean 5 different variants, or 100), And when the heuristics is final this will be a much bigger number too… Comodo will continue to create more signatures. It’s getting there VERY fast, And with all the amazing users sending Comodo samples… Plus the heuristics, Comodo will simply suppress the competition in around September (When Melih promised he will deliver one of the best, if not he best AV).

This number will grow by 4,000 signatures a day and more.

You don’t have any AV Tests for CIS…
You don’t know how good it is from AV-Comparativies.com
You don’t know how good it is from VB100…
You don’t know how good it is from any other AV Testing organization…

But you have Melih’s word.

Well done Comodo!!!
That was a cut a paste of the comodo website and that was posted yesterday…In such a short space in time that’s not too bad at all. Lol @ you have Melih’s word. When you compare it to this http://www.kaspersky.com/avupdates they have come a long way still have loads more to do of course.

LOL. I guess I just don’t know how to deal with faith based security. :slight_smile: But I hope they don’t “suppress the competition” too violently. :wink: Especially with their expressed goal of making the internet safe for everyone. Most of them probably mean well, in spite of it all. And they obviously have put in a lot of effort, so we’ll see what happens, In the meantime I’ll stick with Avast! and look to see what happens with Avast! 5, which should be out before October when CIS AV is advertised to be complete. And continue to see what is happening with other (non Comodo) products that seem to offer “best of breed” potential for enhanced security.

I tried to check with grc.com but, since our home network has layered packet-based protections, it would take time to get through all of them to the PC, turning off an ISP service, setting the PC to a server in DMZ and turning off all the firewall rules on the router toward the PC. So, I checked it on a public LAN when I’m out, but I ended up with testing the local firewall. :frowning: What I can say is that I didn’t find any strange connection with CurrPorts when I was on the public LAN. I use OpenDNS for domain name servers, though.

alot of fp’s with cis beta,i tried and got alot when downloading from well know sites and when using sandboxie.

…and ‘solcroft’, is that you I see “stirring the pot” there too? :o http://forums.comodo.com/forum_policy_violation_board-b111.0/ They must know that you are right-now reverse engineering their superior product from behind the Bamboo Curtain ;D ;D

@sded
Same here. I am testing it but untill i see some physical results i’ll just have to trust my good old trustworthy avast! that has proved itself well several times already in many tests and in real world.

Besides, many promised ultimate detection but only few actually delivered it. So far only AVIRA and Kaspersky fall into that category…
On the other hand ALWIL guys also delivered everything they’ve promised to us s far so thats also very good.
They promised improved handling of samples and false positives and all that is now a reality. Maybe it’s not fully operational but we can already see their new infrastruture in action. New samples are added faster and false positives are also fixed faster.

The problem is that it is time consuming to complete a precise test and most of our knowledge is pretty limited. I don’t have knowledge enough to do test on Antivirus. Basic functions of firewall is relatively easier but is still time consuming.

That’s the exact reason why so many vendors get away with ridiculously impossible claims. ;D

I’ll be testing it in February, since I have time to kill before my vacation runs out. Come next month we’ll see just exactly how well the new CIS beta performs. Preliminary estimates at the moment are approx 40-50% detection with heuristics at high, a big improvement since CIS 3.5 rarely goes beyond 20%. But we’ll see.

What can I say, Melih just has a special spot in his heart for me. ;D

Oh, hadn’t noticed the icons. ;D

The AV is poor (but in saying that my computer is clean so I guess it must be doing a ok ish job.) As I have said before Defence plus should alert you to viruses as well so it could be what the AV does not pick up defence plus will alert you too? Maybe? That might be why they can make the clams they are making.

Althought I run avast on the computer I writting right now, I use several systems without any AV and they are all clean. I guess this is not exactly a strong proof for the fact that viruses don’t exist at all.

I don’t know How I can be sure that our systems are all clean. Thanks to packet monitoring applications such as Currports and Wireshark (a bit verbose to me), I can check out connections, but I don’t know how to monitor malware activities especially silent ones. HIPS applications may give me hints but I’m not knowledgeable enough to systematically grasp what is going on our computers. HIPS apps may give me warning if something outside of daily routines happen but that’s all.

Although I’m still wondering if I should choose Online Armor or Comodo firewall at the moment, as for AV, I keep using Avast! and AntiVir on our machines simply because some third party virus test rated them OK to higher level. They tend to put AntiVir slightly above Avast!, though. I don’t know how to check AV by myself, so, I simply rely on well-reputed sources. Also, I like Avast!'s high configurability.

Both OA and Comodo firewall/HIPS are rated very highly whenever there is a comparison. And run well with Avast! I used CFP for about a year, but only on one computer because I found it to be demanding in terms of maintenance and reconfiguration. But very configurable and capable after taking the time to learn and beta test it. OA is much more usable, but perhaps not quite as configurable. OA has some features that are very useful for mobile wireless users, such as the Firewall Status Display and its treatment of network interfaces and computers in the paid version, so it ended up primary on my mobile laptop as soon as it was available for Vista. Some of the ongoing issues with Comodo were virtually impossible to get fixed (like logging, SPI, the “ASK” function, installation/removal issues, …-see their forum for long threads), since they were/are working their own agenda leading up to the Suite activity. Even implementing Bugzilla for prioritizing bug reports and the various bug forums got nowhere. Tall Emu, OTOH, seems to make sure that user inputs are tracked and corrected as they go through the build process. I even got a few changes incorporated, rather than having to put them on a wish list somewhere. I think part of this is because OA is still working on building a great FW/HIPS and uses a conventional closed/open beta cycle to do incremental upgrades, rather than surprising the users with the “big bang” that is primarily features vs fixes and has variable testing beforehand. So I switched my main computer to OA also, and have been beta testing the latest versions for them. Along with Avast! :slight_smile: But ultimately it is up to you, the features you value, and how you monitor and maintain your firewall/HIPS.
BTW, HIPS is now, but some of the behavioral programs show promise for more reliably keeping your computer clean in the future. If you read the Wilders forums, especially http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=30, there is a lot of interesting stuff going on. But will probably mature about the time the next generation of malware shows up. :wink:

Found this review of CIS 3.5 from last year http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2333811,00.asp