Never mind… I hope they stop doing that. They already admited it was not correct so, no further ideas.
By the way, I hope they make an agreement and continue to do that, legally, after Alwil decide.
Anyway whatever they did or do, I am sure they are not allowed to attach the avast! shield logo on that CD without prior asking and permission from Alwil Software. Everything should be “washed” through the proper channels, and if Alwil gives them permission, then they are allowed to use it…
Look at it this way… this way, anyone is allowed to put avast! logo on it’s “product” whatever it is… and people will buy it from them, and install it because they’ve heard avast! is wonderful antivirus… but what if… what if they put some auto installation VIRUS on that CD (I’m not telling they did it, because I am sure they didn’t do that)… I’m just saying hypotetically… what if someone did that… people will trust avast! logo, and after their system gets all screwed up, they would blame everything on Alwil and avast! Think about it…
So something needs to be done in the future… and not just regarding the logo or avast code. I mean, some of us also did a huge job on other parts of avast! and I believe that it should also be protected somehow. Didn’t we deserve it somehow ?
They sent me another email… It’s unbelivable…
They state that the user have the best tutorial of avast! in their book. The book has 28 pages.
In fact there are tons of avast! windows being shown there. I don’t have the book, just some picture I’ve received.
They claim the books are the best and detailed. I found technical errors in this only page I’ve received.
Unfortunately, for them, I know how avast! works and I know portuguese 8)
It’s urgent that avast! has a brazilian (and other languages) official site to solve this problems.
They state their personal are paid to develop the tutorials. Of course, Alwil does not receive anything for them.
What do we, users, receive for helping here? Well, avast! Home version for free is the answer, isn’t it?
I won’t discuss the quality of the book (seems good).
They state that Grisoft and Symantec use their service. They earn a lot of money by these two companies that have resellers here in my country.
I have nothing against them or the fact that Alwil could make a deal with them.
But, if Alwil does not check the technical content of the book, what would you say Igor, Vlk, Pavel?
They said the CD-ROM has their own art and job.
Martin, judge by yourself… Who is the owner of that icon?
Sasha, when your icons are used, can you do anything against it? I mean, they’re free but could they be changed or used without your permission?
They asked why Alwil does not give support to them…
I can’t talk in the name of Alwil. But, as far I could see these years here, it’s a matter of strategy and decision of their own.
Maybe Edward could say something.
I’ve stated that both Symantec and NOD32 do not have a free version.
I’ve stated that AVG version in Portuguese is not free.
But they say that would be the last contact with me and they would not talk with Alwil.
For sure, I’ve aswered, they’re not doing a good job: using trademark material, selling it and do not have any agreement with avast!
Someday Alwil will discover that I stolen their code, I’m selling avast! here, I’m making a lot of money with their work…
Ok ;D
Technical
I know this is upsetting to you but they aren’t selling avast!
They are selling a users manual and making avast available, on disk, to those who buy their tutorial.
The only problem with this scenario is if the material they use in their tutorial is copyrighted. If it’s not,
then what they are doing is perfectly legal. It may not be 100% ethical but, unfortunately today many things aren’t ethical and are still permitted. IMHO
That is depending on what the law says in Brazil about plagiarism.
If Tech could proof that he is the author of that text, he has a strong case, even if they worked the text around, and even if it is not copyrighted. The next time he should explicitly state that this content is not to be reproduced in any way. These vultures just wait for an occasion.
But this is typical for how things are to-day, on the one hand providers are strongarmed to take certain content off their sites, and even their officials can land in jail if they do not follow suit (recent London example); on the other hand everything is allowed when the normal end-user or the law-abiding-citizen is concerned, he has to go it alone protecting himself). This is like things were once in lawless territories in the West in days of old. Yes regulations are very one-sided to-day, this has struck me in the recent couple of years. Where has “the authorities” gone. Do they have another agenda? Well for sure, folks,
it is not amusing.
Bob, they assumed that they’re not allowed to do that. Igor said the same. The EULA says what they could not do.
They’re using avast! name and icons, they’re using avast! windows to make a tutorial with technical errors and without Alwil permition.
They never contacted Alwil while AVG and Symantec make money with them.
Ok, seems that you don’t want to face this side of the problem :-[
Need more time to explanations?
Thanks Polonus but this way Bob (and others) will think the problem is my text.
Problem is that Alwil was never contacted by them…
I hope the EULA is for these occasions…
Until we claim and blame!!!
Users, c’mon, they take out the material from sales.
Why? Just because it’s ok, they’re doing the right thing?
NO.
They noticed they’re doing ilegal things, period.
We must fight for avast! free version or logoff and do other thing…
Ok, seems that you don't want to face this side of the problem
Technical,
At this point, no problem has been established. The ultimate decision may require a court decision.
If any one is willing to take it that far.
As I originally said, I know it's upsetting you but that in itself doesn't change or cure the problem.
Yes, this is upsetting me as everybody can see >:(
But we do can do something: blame, claim, post, argue, cry!
If we don’t fight together, if we give up, then why we’re here?
Tech CALM DOWN you aren’t doing yourself a favor being mad like that, this is actually alwil’s problem and they should solve it(unless you work for them) if you think a MAD email from me to that company will help please give me an email address i’ll give them hell!Tell me what to do and i’ll do it gladly if it will help in any way…
We are again landed in the danger zone. Just another thread that should have been concluded by PMs mainly. Some people have all the abilities to land in the general-off-topic zone again and again, making the same mistakes over and over. Maybe it is habitual, and then they cannot be helped. I wished a moderator stepped in here to draw the line. This is a personal matter between Tech defending his translated works and too much interference would not help the cause. Let the matter rest for a while, think it over, and after some time report the results,