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No… they were not hidden. Looked all over for them and the progs were gone! Strangely, NOT all their data. So, I was able to make a half arsed recovery… after doing a FULL factory restore. The operations of the 'puter were just not right and I decided a full clean up was necessary.
Thanks to all for your suggestions and I will apply some of them in the future,
-Chuck
P.S.
And I will reinstall avast!