As I recall he used Norton and paid for it. He also paid me pretty well :slight_smile:

But I hear ya regarding private businesses small and even medium size not paying very well. I also worked for a number of private hi-tech manufacturers with annual revenues between $25 and $50 million and they definitely paid below average. However, once you had been there five years or so your chances of getting laid off because of a bad economy were almost non-existent.