reply to DavidR (reply 5)
I’m not running Automatic Update.
We don't like to give up that quickly GrinYeah, we don't,either. ;D It did seem as though epp's mind was made up.
Your log is clean. Nothing seems to be wrong ???
But what is the total physical memory amount for this PC? Really 128 M? Probably heavy swapping expected.
I assume you mean the windows updates, even if they don’t auto check and download but ask/notify, it can still hog things. Personally I have windows update disabled and I do all my updates manually.
I’m seeing problems with avast.setup as well. It seems that despite the below normal thread priority it will push itself infront and cause a system slowdown when the CPU is under heavy load.
I’m regularly getting decreased performance when playing eve-online, which will continue to get worse and worse untill I exit eve and let avast.setup finish.
22:59:24.000 1209333564 system Memory: 26% load. Phys:1531088/2096624K free, Page:2360124/2991524K free, Virt:2069400/2097024K free
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 system Computer WinName: (Removed)
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 system Windows Net User: SYSTEM
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 general Cmdline: /refresh /noreboot /updatevps /verysilent /limitcpu
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 general Operation set to INST_OP_UPDATE_INSTALL_PACKAGES
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 general Old version: 491 (1169)
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 system Using temp: C:\WINDOWS\TEMP_av_proI.tm~a03616 (4698M free)
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 general SGW32P::CheckIfInstalled set m_bAlreadyInstalled to 1
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 system Installed in: C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4 (4698M free)
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 internet SYNCER: Type: use IE settings
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 internet SYNCER: Auth: another authentication, use WinInet
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 package Part prg_av_pro-491 is installed
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 package Part vps-8042701 is installed
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 package Part news-4b is installed
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 package Part setup_av_pro-491 is installed
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 package Part jrog-38 is installed
27.04.2008 22:59:24.000 1209333564 general Old version: 491 (1169)
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 file SetExistingFilesBitmap: 1054->154->154
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 general GUID: b7c8d475-6735-4c8c-bd2d-707cfb81cda3
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 general Entering:UpdateInstallPackages
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package LoadProductVpu: C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\Setup\prod-av_pro.vpu
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package LoadPartInfo: jrog = jrog-38 returned 00000000
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package LoadPartInfo: news = news-4b returned 00000000
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package LoadPartInfo: program = prg_av_pro-491 returned 00000000
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package LoadPartInfo: setup = setup_av_pro-491 returned 00000000
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package LoadPartInfo: vps = vps-8042701 returned 00000000
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package LoadProductVpu: C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\Setup\prod-av_pro.vpu ended with 00000000
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package LoadPartVpu: Loading ‘part-prg_av_pro-491.vpu’ returned 00000000
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package LoadPartVpu: Loading ‘part-vps-8042701.vpu’ returned 00000000
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package LoadPartVpu: Loading ‘part-news-4b.vpu’ returned 00000000
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package LoadPartVpu: Loading ‘part-setup_av_pro-491.vpu’ returned 00000000
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package WARN:LoadPartVpu ended on no pInfo
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package LoadPartVpu: Loading ‘part-jrog-38.vpu’ returned 00000000
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package FilterOutExistingFiles: 154 & 154 = 0
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package FilterOutExistingFiles: 154 & 154 = 0
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package IsFullOkay: vps-8042700.vpu - is okay
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package IsFullOkay: vpsm-8042701.vpu - is okay
27.04.2008 22:59:25.000 1209333565 package ArePartsInstallable: 1
27.04.2008 22:59:46.000 1209333586 package vps: updated [8042701]
27.04.2008 22:59:46.000 1209333586 file Fix security on: C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4*.*
27.04.2008 22:59:47.000 1209333587 file Fix security on: C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ENGLISH*.*
27.04.2008 22:59:47.000 1209333587 file Fix security on: C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ENGLISH\HELP*.*
27.04.2008 22:59:47.000 1209333587 file Fix security on: C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ENGLISH\HtmlData*.*
27.04.2008 22:59:47.000 1209333587 file Fix security on: C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\images*.*
27.04.2008 22:59:47.000 1209333587 package Transferred: files 0, bytes 0, time 0 ms
27.04.2008 22:59:47.000 1209333587 package Retries: total 0, files 0, servers 0
27.04.2008 22:59:47.000 1209333587 file NeedReboot=false
27.04.2008 22:59:47.000 1209333587 general Return code: 0x20000000 [Something done]
27.04.2008 22:59:47.000 1209333587 general Stopped: 27.04.2008, 22:59:47
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 general Started: 27.04.2008, 22:59:50
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 general Running setup_av_pro-491 (1169)
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 system Operating system: WindowsXP ver 5.1, build 2600, sp 2.0 [Service Pack 2]
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 system Memory: 27% load. Phys:1512704/2096624K free, Page:2359624/2991524K free, Virt:2069400/2097024K free
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 system Computer WinName: (Removed)
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 system Windows Net User: SYSTEM
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 general Cmdline: /verysilent /noreboot /stopstat “C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\aswUpdSum.ini”
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 general Operation set to INST_OP_STOP_STAT
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 general Old version: 491 (1169)
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 system Using temp: C:\WINDOWS\TEMP_av_proI.tm~a03532 (4698M free)
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 general SGW32P::CheckIfInstalled set m_bAlreadyInstalled to 1
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 system Installed in: C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4 (4698M free)
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 internet SYNCER: Type: use IE settings
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 internet SYNCER: Auth: another authentication, use WinInet
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 package Part prg_av_pro-491 is installed
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 package Part vps-8042701 is installed
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 package Part news-4b is installed
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 package Part setup_av_pro-491 is installed
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 package Part jrog-38 is installed
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 general Old version: 491 (1169)
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 package Transferred: files 0, bytes 0, time 0 ms
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 package Retries: total 0, files 0, servers 0
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 file NeedReboot=false
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 general Return code: 0x20000001 [Nothing done]
27.04.2008 22:59:50.000 1209333590 general Stopped: 27.04.2008, 22:59:50
The avast VPS database update process is CPU intensive.
If you are playing a game that itself is CPU intensive then the combination of the avast update and your game may well need more than 100% of your CPU capability.
A high CPU program running when avast tries to run will in fact lengthen the time of the avast update since avast is limiting its CPU use to try to avoid an overload. However, the fact of the matter is that avast does require the CPU cycles to get the update done.
A way to minimize this impact for you would be to run a manual update before starting your game so that there is a smaller chance of an automatic update occurring during the game - I know that means remembering to do it so …
Another alternative would to set the VPS update setting to “Ask” so that you can avoid the update process occurring during the game.
Forget about AVG, especially 8. :
I have decided to give Avast another try. One thing performed this evening that was not done the first time around, was to defrag the hard drive.
I have not yet reinstalled Avast, but am wondering if the defrag may now cause Avast to update more quickly (rather than one hour) at startup?
cause Avast to update more quickly (rather than one hour) at startup
If that statement is true then something else is happening.
My 11 year old laptop with Windows Me and only 96Mb of memory does not take anything like that long to update even when I only power it on every couple of months and there is a backlog of updates - yes it does take about 15-20 minutes sometimes but an hour??
The system that started this thread had 1GB RAM.
Yeah, I do all my updates manually, too. FWIW - This problem has disappeared. Possibly because the box died. I am having a new problem on the replacement box (see new thread). Thanks for all the help with this!
Doing your updates manually means that avast assumes you want avast to consume whatever resources are needed to get the update done.
Read the thread … the avast updates are CPU intensive. The more out of date you are the more CPU is needed for the update to run. By far the best option here is to run the automatic VPS updates for avast. The automatic updates are set (on up to date operating systems like XP and Vista) to not consume more than 30% CPU.
I do not play games on the PC, nor do I have any installed. It is only used for Internet and occasional letter writing (OpenOffice.org), otherwise, that’s it.
But I could not understand why it took an hour (in bits and pieces) just for an update. It is as if the download server had an intermittent connection, yet it occurred all the time.
The amount of data downloaded in avast VPS updates is really quite small. The downloads take very little time (even on dial up) the time consuming part is the work on your system to integrate the updates - that is the part that is CPU intensive and takes much more time typically than the download. avast reports, at the the end of the update, how long the update took, how much data was downloaded and how long the data download took.
I just reinstalled Avast 4.8, but this time it was installed in Safe Mode. Please look at this from the setup.log file. Does it look right? My apologies if it is too long, but I wanted to capture everything.
18.07.2008 18:33:46.000 1216420426 general Started: 18.07.2008, 18:33:46 18.07.2008 18:33:46.000 1216420426 general Running setup_av_pro-4b1 (1201) 18.07.2008 18:33:46.000 1216420426 system Operating system: WindowsXP ver 5.1, build 2600, sp 2.0 [Service Pack 2] 18.07.2008 18:33:46.000 1216420426 system Memory: 45% load. Phys:285736/523828K free, Page:1001392/1277796K free, Virt:2069400/2097024K free 18.07.2008 18:33:46.000 1216420426 system Computer WinName: COMPUTER 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 system Windows Net User: COMPUTER\Edward 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 general Cmdline: /setproxy 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 general Operation set to INST_OP_PROXYDLG 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 general Old version: 4b1 (1201) 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 system Using temp: C:\DOCUME~1\Edward\LOCALS~1\Temp\_av_proI.tm~a00584 (21577M free) 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 general SGW32P::CheckIfInstalled set m_bAlreadyInstalled to 1 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 system Installed in: C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4 (21577M free) 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 internet SYNCER: Type: no proxy 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 internet SYNCER: Auth: no authentication 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 package Part prg_av_pro-4b1 is installed 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 package Part vps-8071801 is installed 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 package Part news-4b is installed 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 package Part setup_av_pro-4b1 is installed 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 package Part jrog-43 is installed 18.07.2008 18:33:47.000 1216420427 general Old version: 4b1 (1201) 18.07.2008 18:33:53.000 1216420433 general Connection test 18.07.2008 18:33:53.000 1216420433 internet SYNCER: Agent=Syncer/4.80 (av_pro-1201;p) 18.07.2008 18:33:53.000 1216420433 internet SYNCER: Type: no proxy 18.07.2008 18:33:53.000 1216420433 internet SYNCER: Auth: no authentication 18.07.2008 18:34:04.000 1216420444 general Server definition(s) loaded for 'main': 203 (maintenance:0) 18.07.2008 18:34:04.000 1216420444 general SelectCurrent: selected server 'Download939 AVAST Server' from 'main' 18.07.2008 18:34:04.000 1216420444 internet SYNCER: Type: no proxy 18.07.2008 18:34:04.000 1216420444 internet SYNCER: Auth: no authentication 18.07.2008 18:34:04.000 1216420444 internet HttpGetWinsock(http://download939.avast.com/iavs4x/servers.def.stamp) 18.07.2008 18:34:04.000 1216420444 internet Used server: 18.07.2008 18:34:34.000 1216420474 package Transferred: files 1, bytes 10, time 240 ms 18.07.2008 18:34:34.000 1216420474 package Retries: total 0, files 0, servers 1 18.07.2008 18:34:34.000 1216420474 file NeedReboot=false 18.07.2008 18:34:34.000 1216420474 general Return code: 0x000004C7 [The operation was canceled by the user.] 18.07.2008 18:34:34.000 1216420474 general Stopped: 18.07.2008, 18:34:34
After this, it appeared to have eventually updated, three windows appeared, one (with voice) that the database was updated and another two windows with:
Information about current update: Total time: 3:11
- Program: Already up to date
(current version 4.8.1201)- Vps: Already up to date
(current version 080718-1)Server: download609.avast.com (75.125.223.98:80)
Downloaded files: 2 (0.02 KB)
Download time: 1 s
Information about current update: Total time: 2:56
- Program: Already up to date
(current version 4.8.1201)- Vps: Already up to date
(current version 080718-1)Server: download902.avast.com (209.62.112.210:80)
Downloaded files: 2 (0.02 KB)
Download time: 1 s