Hi malware fighters,
It seems the issues with ClamWin are now solved, and users of the avast av solution can again run ClamWin non-resident av as an additional scanner to close the vulnerability gap.For proof see attached picture…
polonus
we believe you polonus.no need of proof, at for least me.
polonus, my friend!
always I trust your opinion and so now I want to ask you a question
does ClamWin detect something more than avast! and is it needed? since there are some options such as Avira Rescue System or Dr.Web Live CD to use for scan via additional Antivirus engine when it is needed and their great works to remove virus/spywares (because of having no running process during their scan in their OS) is it good to have it installed?
Spyware Terminator can install ClamWin itself in additional to its own scanner (I use it only for scan, not real time protection - On Demand only), so should I do it?
Thanks in Advance 
Hi Omid Farhang,
Well, my friend, you sort of answered that question already by and for yourself. Because of the gigantic amount of malcode around no particular av solution or anti malware solution can detect them all. Heuristic scanning is making this less outstanding, off course, but there are certainly certain “flaws and odors” where scanners are concerned? There are others here on the forum too that also like the second opinion of a scanner like ClamWin, just one to mention: my good friend, bob3160. There are two things to consider here and they come from the background and the philosophy behind the ClamWin av-scanner build, it is “open source” and also it is being built by enthusiastic volunteers developers/coders. These considerations to my mind make that it gives an additional coloring to my scanner rainbow and palette, just like DrWeb’s CureIt etc., and as it now again working flawlessly next to my main line of defense, avast resident av, I say why not use them both?
polonus
very nice answer, Thanks!
I asked if we should use it, because some times we deal with many programs to protect our computer and we forget we have to enjoy our computer too!!
for example some “Avira” users use “Lavasoft Ad-Aware” for additional security and for their Spyware Protection, now what’s problem?! problem is this:
Hi, Your setup doesn't bring any additional safety, but contrary. Moreover, Ad-Aware is using our engine, so this software is completely redundant. Finally, I think that your computer is very slow.an Avira Forum Moderator said it...
so it’s important we collect programs that cover us best and use less programs as much as possible. manage too many programs and… is hard and also sometimes really is not needed. I was a fan of having a lot of programs on my computer to protect myself, a desire of security, but after too many research and reading and tests I found we can protect ourself in minimum configuration, but with right choice! it’s important we configure our system in right way.
for example for having a lot of add-on in browser to protect it, and then a lot of real time protection for web port and then some hardware things between computer port and ISP…
ok, we were talking about on-demand things, “ClamWin”, having some on-demand program is good, because they have no impact on our system performance and give us more chance to remove missed malware sample of virus. but when number of on-demand scanners grow up too, normal users after a while forget (or being tired of) update them and scan system with them and and and…
my point is that good detection rate of avast! and Avira (and some other AV). avast! cover so many Virus and Spyware etc, Avira do it too and…
what about ClamWin, we know it usually in all of test had not a good detection rate because of the things that is not matter now, so are there any sample in their virus definition which don’t be in avast! and Avira virus definition?
if avast! cover all of the things that ClamWin can detect, would not be waste of time to install and update and scan system with that periodically?
I hope you could get what I am thinking of.
I want to say, we have to balance our computer safety with enjoying of computer. a good configuration (IMHO) is a set and forget security system, fewer confirmation and click stork as much as possible. also don’t slow down computer and…
developer these days are trying to do same, but users themselves disturb it, for example developers add “HIPS” feature to their security and add some “preset answers” for common questions to it to let users deal with fewer questions and some users feel they are not protected anymore because they are not answering so many question and install additional security software (HIPS program).
So, are we wrong when we say that Ad-Aware adds nothing to protection at all… that it’s an obsolete tool?
How could it be if it is using Avira engine? Is this recent?
Yes, it is recently.
http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=749446#post749446
http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=727180
Lavasoft, the editor of Ad-Aware, bought Avira engine too, for its antivirus solution Helix. Have a look [url=http://www.lavasoft.com/products/lavasoft_antivirus_helix.php]here.[/url] (This product is the same as the Premium version of AntiVir but in blue !)
Ad-Aware Plus and Pro use Avira Engine. it’s not and out-date program. but it is a program which have some problems such as conflict and slow down system.
Oh… we’re talking about an antivirus not the old antispyware only (the free version)…
the free version only had some false positive for me, and also removing some of my cookies (which I say was not bad cookies)
So, there was a fix in Avast’s database, wasn’t there? Or I should install a new version of ClamWin? But I didn’t hear about new versions lately.
Hi George Yves,
I think it was more to do with clamwin not encrypting their virus signatures, so avast picks them up…
-Scott-
Hi George Yves,
Yes, I think spg SCOTT is right, Clamwin encrypted their signatures properly, so avast is no longer flagging them. I continued downloading ClamWin updates and got avast alarms until two days ago when avast stopped alarming the download sequence. So as I did not read about this here, I reported it,
polonus
Good to know that finally ClamWin corrected this issue.
But, really, with that low detection rates, what’s the advantage of using ClamWin? ???
Hi Tech,
It was demonstrated that ClamWin just detect another strain of malware than main stream av scanners.
Of course avast is by large and far superior to a “hobby” product, but again every undetected malware counts. I took ClamWin on because of bob3160 mentioned it once. I know bob3160 has a lot of experience and does not do such things without a reason for it,
polonus
Does Alwil team confirm this?
What does Maxx think?
Damien,
Currently I’m using both avast! and Microsoft Security Essentials on this Windows 7 system.
I don’t have ClamWin installed on this system.
It is installed on the XP system as a second opinion if avast! find something.
Tech: we don’t use Clam internally, so we can’t measure its effectiveness against various types of malware… what i saw during scanning on virustotal, there are lacks of detection of some complex malware families… anyway, Clam can be used as an one-time shooter (it doesn’t have a resident part, which would conflict/deadlock on the file system)…
Hello guys,
not their db, its still unencrypted (not very smart idea). We have fixed it on avast! side.
Bye
Oh Ok…
Thank you for the correction, and the fix
-Scott-
jsejtko, I’ve read that Kubejc assumed that as a ClamWin’s problem and it should be corrected by them.
Thanks Maxx for the info. What I’ve seen is that there is a lack of detection (almost all files at virustotal I’ve tested).