hi thanks.

I downloaded the avast free update
I have windows vista
I have also malwarebytes and windows defender
i did have clamwin for a while but used the unistaller tool and I think I had avast free last as well after using system restore last year.
yes it was acting normal the night before this happend
thanks for any help :slight_smile:

also this happend last night and now this morning (last hour) it has not come up at all and I can get into the control panel again ??? so now I’m really confused about it