Cool,looks like a woke up some real players in this forum.
The spamming post count farmers where starting to bore me.
Now were getting somewhere ^^ wasn’t shore if i was going to eat a ban button their with my last post grins
bob3160: So does any other program that monitors your system in order to attempt to keep your system safe.
That is it's job.
Wrong!
Theirs no need for a anti virus or any app installed on your system to phone home and all updates can be done offline though you can still record my ip when i download the needed update.
igor: Nice imagination, but that's a nonsense of course.
Yes, there are some statistics begin submitted - but certainly no "remote login by avast! moderators" (whatever avast! moderators should be).
Well ill agree to that if you’ll agree to the fact that most user end legal agreements are nonsense as well.
The truth is somewhere in the middle vs my last post.
polonus:
Avast access to your computer’s OS is to ensure the system security and privacy invasion are totally unrelated.
On the contrary ensuring your system security is just a way to keep serious privacy invasion issues at bay,
which come via cybercriminal activities being performed via an infested system
(like scam, spam, click & other frauds, malcious bot activity etc. etc.)
as malcode can seriously damage your privacy integrity.
Your anti virus needs no access to my computer & all updates can be done off line.
I disabled all settings in avast that had anything to do with anything online and still it spams connection attempts to the max as well if i haven’t missed my guess it all so resets some settings when disabled on the topic of joining the botcloud and phoning home to the command and control server at avast HQ though id have to check that once more to be shore.
That make a really nasty youtube if i was right on that topic or re-spawing settings because i remember turning everything off and 24 hours later on my test computer some options had re-spawned,that or i just missed the options in question the first 3 times i went over all the program settings options on the test computer I use for that kind of thing.
You know theirs no need for the avast to hammer the firewall in question like that trying to get out.it wont so all its doing is being a bitch vs my firewall logs and as the backtrack 5 slogan gos, the quieter your internal network is the better you can hear.
When you system gets hacked its like a storm of crap that starts hitting the internal network firewalls all over the place as carp-ware starts probing for ways out of your network to the out side WAN port scan stile.
You know funny thing is I found this other program of late that I tested that’s freeware that like your antivirus promises to protect you from black hats and privacy invasion on the net but at the same time dousen’t
My self in testing i only left port 53,80,443 open on the 2nd firewall .
Funny that other users that saw the same problem reported that they spotted uncommon network traffic on other ports from the “spywall” in question.
The spywall in question douse a full port scan of your internal network looking for pin holes in the firewall if any after the fact if any.
Funny Thing is that it’s a freeware firewall and unless you firewall the firewall you never see that its doing that.
polonus:
Privacy issues come with your user agent, because it is you that initiate all that is going on under the hood of your browser via requests.
You could install a couple of extensions to thward off privacy invasion like script blocking, check java to run or not,
a cookie manager, adware blocking extension with specific blocklists. Extensions to prevent tracking by trackers,
web rep evaluation, extensions to make 1x1 pixel web beacons visible. Etc. etc....
So from the above if your questions are about privacy invasion then I think you are totally barking up the wrong tree
and I think you are actually addressing the wrong forum also. More answers can be found at forums like
NoScript's and/or ABP+
btw my user:agent is bogus
Well as for my network setup i don’t want to make a road map for hackers to get past my net defenses but ill tell you this much,more often then not i only have 3 ports open and 7x firewalls back to back +1 internal honeynet and more then one network defense lair as well as a ip black list + dedicated network dmz server corp firewall box hardware firewalls etc etc.
Once you get hacked hard you never forget that fact that as a network admin theirs no room for 2nd place,if you fail to protect your network , its so over.
99% of all the problems people have on the net with drive by downloads and browser hacking is all java and flash player and lack of browser updates,disable both + cookies and your more or less bulletproof.
After that what you have to watch out for is social engendering attacks aka avast and the like imho.
But you know their a difference from just recording ips and browser agent info and having a program installed on your computer that pugs you in to a botcloud…
The hole idea of a botcloud is privacy invasion city and im not the only one atm that thinking it.
And make no mistake a cloud setup is a botnet , some are starting to call them white clouds “forces of good~white hat” vs black clouds “forces of evil~black hats” or just simply botclouds, but their all bot nets in my mind
the hole botcloud idea comes from botnets as im shore you know.
And no i don’t feel im barking up the wrong tree seeing as were still talking about botnets, its just that avast “and other free to use apps “make promises to block others that might do to me what i feel up to a point avast douse to others but wont allow others to do to their protected users
And of cores down the road after the fact you can then use that statical information to sell to others for profit or for personal gain on other levels.
avast is a aggressive data miner imho but I guess that’s what you get with free corporate grade software.
Its a different story when dealing with opensorce software.
polonus: Keep your real privacy issues offline, that is the best way to go for everyone.
Do not share online what you won't share with others offline.,
For wasn't it a Google spokesman that remarked: "Internet privacy is not our first concern,
as real privacy does no longer really exists on the Internet".
well i have no problems with sharing virus profiles with the online communality for the anti virus program i use after the fact when something is detected. It just means its less effective vs zero day exploits but if that means no privacy invasion from the installed anti virus then so be it.
I have no problems with that topic.
My problem is with data sucking vampire apps that use choke and dagger half truths to suck in user base.
One things for shore i won’t let some one turn my computer in to their private botcloud server that they can use as they see fit and invade my privacy and scan all my hard drive for *.exes and and god knows what then upload all that info to the avast commend and control server limited only by whatever the company in question thinks it can get away with by law, with social engineering tactics and the limits of what it thinks it can get way with.
As for the Google quote, good point corporations care only about profit margin and all other concerns are secondary.
Btw if you want some real nasty user end legal agreements look up the one for punk buster or Ea games battlefield3, different corporations out their atm are really pushing hard on the privacy invasion topic to see if anyone will fight back.
My self this topic sadden me seeing as if people at large don’t wake up to what coming they might wake up one day to find out they no longer have any privacy left vs the people at the top 1% of the population food chain.
It end up being a world ware a computer AI knows everything you do in life in real time 24\7 on the skynet defense system and your just a dot on a lcd screen waiting for the global moderators to take a disliking to you and press the del key next to you name.
here some examples of the future
http://dear-al.blogspot.ca/2012/03/avira-free-antivirus-installed-askcom.html
http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-avg-antivirus-app-may-be-more-dangerous-we-thought
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Origin-EULA-PC-Gaming-Glorified-Spyware-DRM,13285.html
http://www.google.ca/search?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en-CA&source=hp&q=punkbuster+spyware+&meta=&oq=punkbuster+spyware+&gs_l=firefox-hp.3..0j0i30j0i8i30.1157.4338.0.4457.19.15.0.4.4.0.164.1414.3j11.14.0...0.0...1ac.1.VOb0p1V8kfo
https://www.freedrweb.com/download+cureit+free/?lng=en
http://processes.glarysoft.com/PMB.exe/4966/