Yeah, I had a paid version of Avast too, it also said My subs had run out. and it wasn’t even time up. anyway I deleted avast and got a year free Kaspersky internet security from Barclays bank. It run a full scan before start up. A bit of a learning curve, but looks OK. things are still a bit twitchy. like “spaywareblaster” it keeps turning blocked sites off ?? any ideas. It might be kaspaskey, i’ll look on some posts and see what I can pick up… I also removed malwarebytes while I loaded kaspasky, You know how finicky anti-virus programmes are over other prog :frowning: So I’ll reload that now. Keep up the Great work posters…I think this has left a lot of People without a PC…not good at all.