Yes,exactly! Please note the quoted post was from a long time,respected member of your forum,and not a upset newbie with a hosed computer,curtsy of Avast 5,such as myself.
I do not care if 1 out of 100 have a problem(s) with your software.
MY problem still exists!!
Avira lacks a hell of a lot being perfect,but it is so far ahead of Avast!,
that it amounts to the same thing!!
That is patently rubbish, as the resources for avast 5.0 are effectively lighter than 4.8, so it should work on the same hardware that 4.8 worked on as many many users are happily doing; or this forum would be lit up like a Christmas tree if this problem were across the board.
If this isn’t the case for you then there is something wrong, given the mix of security software software according to your signature, it might be might be introducing a conflict, I just don’t know.
Why it is happening to some using avast 5.0 is beyond me. What is sure is that for those that it is impacting, it is a serious problem and one that many feel they can’t live with in the current condition.
You assume of course all of these potential millions with problems, know the location to these obscure Forums,rather than blaming their on lack of knowledge,and striking out blindly to find an answer?
I admire your loyalty,but it proves nothing.
Rather,I propose those most likely to report their problems on this forum,are those most likely to be able to troubleshoot their own issues!!
While the bulk of those suffering from Alwil incompetence,do so without guidance.
I’d like to point out that I’m using a Compaq Presario 722 US laptop with an AMD (Duron) Processor @ 1.1 GHz and 352 MB of RAM and I haven’t noticed my computer running any slower on Avast! 5 than when I was running Avast! 4.8.
“All” other AV software works fine? Have you actually confirmed that?
If you want to see how little of your computer’s resources Avast uses compared to others popular AV’s, install something like Norton 360 or Kasperky Security Suite on your older machine(s) for a few days… Your appreciation of how little resources are used by Avast in comparison to most other brands should be renewed in no time. ;D
I’m not sure if it is or not, I really can’t seem to tell a difference either way, but I can tell you that it scans my system faster on a full thorough scan than 4.8 did.
Just for clarification: You are saying Avast5 uses less RAM and CPU than Avira 9?
You have task manager screenshots to prove that?
Please do not go into the “Avast provides more shields than Avira”!!
The only Shields that really matter, are the standard, and the Web Shield.
Avira free does not provide a web shield,and Avast! 5’s is unworkable.
And what relevance is a comparison of Kaspersky Security SUITE,with Avast free? or paid AV?
I assume nothing, I see it in the forums if there is a serious issue believe me it does light up and very fast. Like some time ago when a VPS update in one particular virus signature was released late one night, without it first having been run against the white list to ensure it was OK (against) and it caused the worst False Positive occurrence I have seen in avast. They all managed to find the forums and most of them were first time posters.
Loyalty my ass, I don’t work for Alwil but am just an avast user for six years and if I find something wrong I’m not known to hold back. Perhaps I have been lucky for the last six years where I haven’t had a serious problem with avast even when beta testing. But if there is something which I can see is wrong I speak out about it I follow no party line.
Where have you seen me blame the user for a lack of knowledge. As for striking out blindly I haven’t been following gdiloren problem, if he has posted it in another topic, my response was based only on the post I quoted. So I only mentioned what I saw in his post and signature.
Just for clarification: You are saying Avast5 uses less RAM and CPU than Avira 9?
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Where on earth did you get Avira out of what I wrote? lol… I actually said nothing about Avira 9 or any other versions of it. I tried Avira once a year or two ago on one of my home machines and hated its interface (personal preference) so it didn’t last more than a few days on my machine.
I"m talking about well known mainstream AV brands which is what I would normally compare a product against.
You have task manager screenshots to prove that?
Oh please… do you have screenshots to dis-prove it? I didn’t claim anything of the sort when it comes to Avira as I don’t really know one way or the other. Perhaps I didn’t realise that this was meant to be an Avira vs Avast type thread.
Please do not go into the "Avast provides more shields than Avira"!!
The only Shields that really matter, are the standard, and the Web Shield.
That’s a pretty big statement you’re making there Bootstrap. On what basis can you make a statement like that? What’s totally unimportant to you might be exactly what someone else is looking for and needs.
Avira free does not provide a web shield,and Avast! 5's is unworkable.
Then I have a total of 14 workstations here running an unworkable antivirus then. I must be some sort of magician. ;D
And what relevance is a comparison of Kaspersky Security SUITE,with Avast free? or paid AV?
Computer performance during active real time protection by a proven well performing (protection wise) product is the relavence - something that would be important to just about anyone that enjoys speed, which in my opinion, would take in just about all commputer users in general. The two I mentioned, Norton and Kaspersky, are proven peformers, both with respectable scores on independant AV comparison tests I’ve read in the past… both however can also, and do, grind a computer’s performance down to frustrating levels. This I know from personal past experience, which is why I chose those two as my examples. Avast on the other hand, hardly makes a difference to a computers performance at all in my experience, apart from when it’s doing a full scan or updating itself.
I thought your complaint was that Avast 5 was made on super fast new computers and therefore unworkable on older machines? That hasn’t been my experience with the product at all.
I had only the standard and behavior shields installed and everything was fine. Then I installed all other shields and my system(w2k) was so bogged down it was unusable. Restored from known clean image- install avast5 with only the two shields running-no issues.
“I thought your complaint was that Avast 5 was made on super fast new computers and therefore unworkable on older machines? That hasn’t been my experience with the product at all.”
Yes,that is part of it,my compliant also included the lack of validity of comparing the RAM/CPU use of a full Suite such as Kasperkey’s,with a basic Av such as Avast!.
(would you care to compare the same resource use between Avast! free and its Suite?)
Do I have screenshots? Why no,I do not.
Nor am I the one stating:
“If you want to see how little of your computer’s resources Avast uses compared to others popular AV’s, install something like Norton 360 or Kasperky Security Suite on your older machine(s) for a few days… Your appreciation of how little resources are used by Avast in comparison to most other brands should be renewed in no time. Grin”
The Kaspersky Suite reference is comparing main battle rifles to assault rifles,and Avira is at least as relevant (popular) as Norton 360.
avast! free in laptop which appeared to have broke IE (no favicons / logos would render on IE8 pages) so happy people left with Chrome doing the business and sparkly fresh v.5 running like a dream.
Also another laptop now loaded with Security Suite on my advice, after my successful over install of avast! free. This time I uninstalled v.4.8 prior to clean installing the Suite. Remarkable. The owners were going to go free version, but now looks like they will opt for the x3 Internet Security Suite, which is appealing as an ideal family package. They have a desktop they share with the kids, and now have to decide between another laptop, or another desktop. I have to pop over sometime and upgrade the avast! free on the old desktop, something I am enjoying immensely. It doesn’t matter which is the best antivirus really. Avast v.5 is good enough for us and that’s all that matters.
I have downgraded to 4.8 and my computer is back to being fast and finally able to multi-task without throwing my cpu up to 100%.
I won’t be going up for a while. Anyone saying Avast 5 is faster is full of bull. It should still be in beta. When I have to restart my computer every two hours so it doesn’t max out my cpu opening up a webpage, then something is wrong.
I am a power user and I don’t like getting the newest AV to get a downgrade in performance. That’s what had me walk away from AVG.
To those saying that we who do not have problems with Avast 5.0 are fanboys, well think again SOUR GRAPERS…
I know what is in my PC and I know how it works. If you guys claim you know what you guys are doing just because you know how to tinker around with your machines, then by all means, GO BACK TO SCHOOL because clearly you know nothing about your machines since you guys cannot even pin point what the heck is wrong with it. Oh sure… Blame the new software installed. The question is, what is in your PC in the first place that made the new software react? Ever thought of that geniuses who lack neurons? It is not only you guys who knows how to use that argument. I do play around with the PC and its OS for a living. So two can play that game. If one thing doesn’t work on the other machine, it clearly does not have anything to do with the OS. Rather what is in the PC because if it is the OS… Duh!!! Then everyone should have the same problem.
As for the bloke using a crystal ball… Well… You are just good at that… Stare at your crystal ball because for all you know you will learn something out of it… Perhaps your crystal ball can magnify your brain and show you that in reality it is really just so small you might even need an electron microscope to see it.
A lot of those stuff against people who do not have issues with Avast are rubbish. For one, they cannot posts something technical worth looking into. We sure have a lot of trolls in the Forum these days.
So I am a full of bull? Simply because it works on my Pentium 4 1.8 Ghz machine and in my main machine (stats in my sig).
I can play games with my Pentium 4, while Avast is running in the background. And these are online games. Also, I can play music with it, and the CPU is not even eaten up. Checking the task manager, if it gets maxed out, not because of Avast but rather a processor intensive program is using it.
The question is what is in your PC that makes it that way. Funny how you consider others full of bull just because it doesn’t work for you. Ei buddy… YOU ARE NOT THE BIBLE with technology. It doesn’t mean if it doesn’t work in your machine, it is the general law of the universe already.
For a power user like you, I definitely find you very amusing. More like a bloated user if you ask me. Power users are more or less scientific in their approach to problems with the PC. They use logic and technical skills. In your case, better upgrade your cognitive faculties as it is showing already you are from the era of 386 PCs. Make yourself useful… Post something relevant instead of garbage.
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This goes both ways my fan-boy friend…A friend of mine the other day asked me if Avast 5 was working for me. I said no I had a lot of problems with 5 when it 1st came out. Went to their forum and just got blown off because I was mad and not a fan-boy. Basically told 5 was working fine for them so must be what is on my machine. As you know my machine is brand new win.7 64 machine with nothing on it but Photoshop. I went back to 4.8 and it is working perfectly. I still see people with problems on the forum so now Im thinking of MSE. Why are you having problems ? Yes upgraded to 5 and it keeps freezing up and says Im uncovered. Have you tried reloading ? Yes twice…did the clean in safe mode and everything. Have you tried the forum ? Ya right went there and lurked for a while…no way I`m going on there and get abused by a bunch of fanboys…That is a true story my friend…yep keep up the good work Mikos…your really giving Avast a good name…