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So Is Avast alone? Nope. Just installed the latest version of uTorrent and look what is checked off. Now click happy people would just click next,next and next. Then they would blame uTorrent for the newly created toolbar. Its about time people start pointing the fingers at themselves and not software companies.
“The greatest problem exists between the chair and the computer”
uTorrent is something I have no use for.
What I download I get from the horses mouth not it’s behind… ;D
In my Google Chrome I have some specifics in ABP plus extension, Better Pop up Blocker, “Blocker” extensions, and I have safe script that also blocks webbugs, I have Abine, Do Not Track Me, disconnect, Kiss Privacy and Ghostery together with CookieMonster extensions. Click and Clean will clean the remainder once in a while." I feel as safe as Fort Knox" with my Privacy Guard configuaration and of course the avast! shields, Traffic Light, Netcraft Anti Phishing, chrome UA spoofer. Webutation and Recx Security analyzer. And the rest of the data Google needs to give me a better search experience…
TMN extension is off, I can work that extension as well to let my queries go under in a constant stream of random queries…
polonus
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Its common sense people. The more add ons you install on your browser the more unstable it becomes. Just like using more then one ad blocker and subscription. Heck ever Ad Block Plus tells you not to add too many subscriptions. So either you use Easylist or Fanboys list. But never both. Just like you do not need 2 cookie blocking add ons running in your browser.
Sorry Damien,
I have high speed internet access to make things go faster. I certainly don’t need all those thing to slow down what I paid extra for to speed up. 
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“cough” paranoid “cough”. I am surprised you can even surf the internet like that. :
You have Avast’s web shields running along with BitDefenders Traffic Light. Thats a classic case of overlapping security.
Howdy bob3160,
I have fine tuned it so that I get these results, for this page here 0.049 seconds with 10 queries.
I can wait that small amount of time to feel more secure.
My Google Chrome with these extensions runs like a hare not like a tortoise…
Damian
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The only security I have running or ever need running is is an antivirus. I actually went a full year and still never got infected. My setup goes like this :
Avast (all shields high and PUPS enabled)
Windows 7 Firewall with Advanced Security
2WIRE Gateway w/NAT
Google Chrome w/ABP,DNTM and LP
On demand scans with MBAM once a month
I also make a complete disk image about twice a week. A disk image is the best insurance you can have. I was a huge BitDefender fan but the program is way too buggy and not customizable. 12 years and going and never been infected.
polonus …I saw your post and yes its overlapping regardless of detection rates. Avast’s Web Shields and BitDefender’s Traffic Light are both examples of web filtering and or shields. They both do the same thing therefore it is called over lapping security. Man I will never understand why people are so paranoid. I could care less if I got infected. Why? Cause I can just mount my disk image and within 45 min I am up and running like nothing ever happened.
Hi Aventador,
Well renewed this page with 0.028 seconds with 15 queries.
Some say that when users know about safe hexing, they do not need much security protection. Avast is the main line of my protection.
Reports have shown it to be the fastest free silution of them all…a fact.
Now I have analyzed too much in “virus and worms” here to know that the web is an everchanging threat landscape with so many webmasters that absolutely know zilth about security and not updated and patched website and server software and insecure php routines, that …a Russian roulette landscape where things often go right but that is sheer being for lucky escapes…and avast off course…
And then I think to myself actual infection is a rare thing…the truth lies in the middle somewhere.
And I have not too much sitting there in ABP - easylist and malware list…and the extensions I do not use or that may conflict are disabled…
No the browser is not weighing too heavy on the old cycles…
polonus
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Your web browser setup can load faster then any page in the world. But that doesn’t hide the fact that you have way too many add ons and have overlapping security. Heck why dont you just install another real time antivirus right. It will keep you twice as protected. Cause 2 is better then one. :
No two is not better than one, I mean two resident ones give less security and give rise to FPs. Some non-resident can work alongside…
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I was being facetious. So then what you are saying is that you do not trust Avast’s Web Shields so you add BitDefender’s Traffic Light. Regardless or being able to work together its still overlapping cause both are doing the same thing in real time. Its like using WOT and Avast’s Web Rep together. Heck I think i am going to try Comodo and Online Armor together. :
Do you even have a system image handy?
Sorry forum members but we have gotten way off topic and hijacked this thread.
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The only way google could have done that was if these 3 combination of things were met:
- The person is using a non secure wifi network (public wifi in otherwords…i mean thats basically what you are doing when you dont setup wifi security)
- Not only would they need to be doing that but they would also need to be putting in a password into a non-secure site…which is pretty rare these days. (well actually many people still use non-secure email servers)
- Would have to be transmitting the information at the time google drove by.
Chances are high that if google obtained a password it was because google drove by a public wifi when a customers email client was connecting to a non ssl pop/imap/smtp server.
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Thanks. I needed some humor. So if Google was so guilty why are they still in business? Why is Google the #1 search engine? Why is Chrome voted the best browser by many web sites and magazines? Oh year…Its cause they spy on people and threaten you. :
I think this turning into a pisdsing contest instead of a constuctive discussion. 
Hi bob3160,
Totally agree with you. Everyone is entitled to his own browser config. I killed most of the overlapping browser extensions now.
Bitdefender Traffic Light is the same as WOT and DrWeb’s and their results differ. I added BitDefender’s TrafficLight just as I have Google Safebrowsing and use it as a guide on my Google search page reuslts what to visit and what to shun and do not go to what is blocked. Could check every search results with VT chromizer but that is too much for me, I think.
Prescanning every link here, I won’t → http://scanurl.net/?u=. Only sometimes when I visit a certain url for the first time in my life.
When nothing ever happens, people do not act accordingly, but once bitten they are twice shy…
polonus
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Speed isn’t anything. Ask any one who’s used both Firefox and Chrome, and if they know what they are talking about and they are being honest they will tell you that in terms of capability, customizability and features, Firefox wins hands-down. What’s more, Firefox uses much less memory than Chrome does. That’s not very important these days for users like me who have 8GB+ of RAM, but if you’re on a netbook or an old PC that has 1GB or less, memory usage can be a real bottleneck for your overall system performance if you’re trying to multitask.
What’s more, the reason the browser exists all all does matter. It matters a lot even though you probably don’t realize why and how it matters. Let me show you why: Firefox is open-source from the bottom to the top; It’s not made by a for-profit corporation so it isn’t in the browser game to get you to buy their stuff. In fact, they don’t even sell stuff. It was built by users, for users, because people wanted a better browser and people who knew how to make that got together and built a community who made Firefox. Compare that to Chrome, which is a closed-source and corporate owned property. While is is true that Chromium is open-source and Chrome is built on top of Chromium, Google Chrome is not the same thing as Chromium. Basically, Google takes the work that Chromium developers do for free because they love coding and programming, and they then turn around and do closed-source coding to turn Chromium into Chrome. In the final analysis Chrome is designed to do one thing and one thing only: Make money for Google. They’re not making it because they love you and want to give you a browser for free. They are giving you a browser for free because they know that most of you will end up making money for them, either by watching an ad that Google gets paid for hosting, or you buying something off the Google Play Store, or one of the many other ways Google makes money.
This doesn’t mean the Google is inherently evil and wants to spy on you because they hate privacy. That sort of conspiracy theory nonsense belongs over in the junk-heap next to Area-51 and nazi-moon-base idiocy. All they want to do is run a business and stay profitable. That’s not so much evil as it is how corporations work. Don’t like it? Nobody’s putting a gun to your head and forcing you to use Google.
As a side note, when I have used Chrome, I have been disappointed at how unstable it is. For example, the last time I tried it I added an extension, decided I didn’t like the extension, uninstalled it, and that broke the UI. Nothing I could do could seem to get the UI back to it’s default state. Even uninstalling and reinstating didn’t fix it. I gave up and went back to Firefox.
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The issue which this topic should address is whether it is ethical to have a browser installation an opt-out by default. It doesn’t matter how many others are doing it. It doesn’t matter who the others are that are doing it? It doesn’t matter the merits or not of the browser. It only should matter whether this is right or wrong. As it must be lawful, it then comes down to whether it’s ethical.
And the contention that everyone else is doing it does not mean it’s ethical.
Many here will wonder how this could be such a big issue. Let me offer an example and then if you think it’s no big deal you can state again that it’s no big deal and my example is nonsense.
A person who knows next to nothing about computers or the Internet or WWW or all things related buys a computer. Let’s say it’s one that has IE9 or 10 bundled in with an OS already installed. Seller tells the new owner that she/he should immediately install an antivirus program and recommends Avast, but doesn’t think to mention to be careful about that opt-out feature for Chrome.
This new owner manages to install the new Avast program and then is quite surprised to find that new browser installed and really doesn’t know what to do and thinks she/he has somehow already become infected with something bad.
Is that scenario too farfetched?
I see we have 2 users back on their soap box. 