IE7 Beta [download]

Exactly Sasha! Those 2 are totally different looking browsers and the IE 7 looks fantastic IMHO! I don’t know how someone can say that Avant and IE 7 look the same ???

NOOO it won’t install for me ??? :cry:

Does anyone know what’s happening??
It says:

"Internet Explorer installation did not complete

Internet Explorer could not be installed.
Please take a look at the logs in your system directory."

Thanks,

Henry

Note… a bug has been found in this version
Internet Explorer 7.0 Beta 2 urlmon.dll DoS (Denial of Services)
Release Date:
Jan 31, 2006

Severity:
Medium

Vendor:
Microsoft

Versions Affected:
Internet Explorer 7.0 Beta 2 (7.0.5296.0)

Overview:
A denial of service vulnerability exists within Microsoft Internet
Explorer 7.0 Beta 2 which allows for an attacker to cause the browser to
crash, and or to execute arbitrary code on the targeted host.

That didn’t take long… :o

It needs genuine windows advantage to install

That’s why it is still in beta, maybe MS should leave it in beta forever :slight_smile:

For those of you who are interested:

The IE7 Madness Begins

And:

Conditional Comments are your Friends

And:

Kickass WebGeek Resources/Browser Bugs/IE7


BTW, bj … welcome to the forums! :slight_smile:


Well been using it since beta 1 and have experienced no problems. Am I lucky?

Thanks Charley!

I think all you geekyguys needed a geekgirl to put in her two cents . . .

And yes, essexboy, you’ve been very lucky. A bunch of stuff is broken still, but in different places than IE6- and the hacks for IE6, if they haven’t been HIDDEN from IE7 will break stuff in IE7. I’ve been going nuts hiding >IE7 hacks for the last week . . . and I doubt everyone is as caring about their webdesign clients as I am. Of course, I really don’t need the agg either when they do get around to upgrading their browser, if truth be told . . . :slight_smile:


Geekguys … where??? ???

Anyway, geekgirls are welcomed here! :wink: 8)

I did not test Beta1 but I do have Beta2 and so far, the only problem I have had is that sometimes when I have more than one IE window open (which is more often than not), the last window I close will the slow to do so. :frowning:
The others close right away. :slight_smile:

Oh well, it is a beta after all. Have to expect some bugs in it. :-\ :stuck_out_tongue: 8)


Well you’re not the only one, that’s for sure… To be true, I don’t know anyone out there who takes care of their clients like I do… there is simply no browser out there that doesn’t show my work properly, either it’s Mozilla based or IE based engine, even all Linux and Mac browsers… :wink:

Of course people will start to attack IE7 now just like they did with any other previous release… all those things comes from Firefox clan primarily… propaganda nothing else. Of course it is full of bugs, it is in beta stage. It is in public beta stage, so people can test everything and report all those things so they can work on them… it’s normal process of developing of such a colossal application.

Oh btw, WELCOME TO FORUMS BJ !

all those things comes from Firefox clan primarily... propaganda nothing else.

Um, no, most of those things come from xhtml/css developers who know that IE6 was never finished and always hopelessly broken . . . and MSIE7 engineers are already waffling on some of the promises that they made to bring IE into compliance with the W3 spec. For instance, it doesn’t look like the min/max width/height lack of implementation will be fixed in time for IE7 final release. Of course, if you’re still using tables for layout and font tags in your markup like we used to do a few years back you wouldn’t have noticed.

And thanks for your welcome, nice that everyone is so friendly!

No I never used tables… I build my sites completely in Flash. That’s why all of them work in all browsers regardless of W3 specs issues etc. Pure Flash/PHP/ASP.net integration… btw nothing plays nice with Flash as IE based browsers do. I’m not saying Mozilla engine based browsers don’t work with this, because they do… the question is how… they tend to slow down everything just because their rendering engine is not that andvanced I guess. We are in multimedia era, so this is very important. I build alive sites, sites full of digital effects, just like many of my FlashKit pals do… we need a browser that “reads” everything properly. So far, IE never had any single problem with interpreting Flash content. Also, so much hated ActiveX doesn’t work on Mozilla based browsers… well some are happy, others hate that, especially those in SEO businesses… The only real problem we see with IE in our community is that IE doesn’t show PNG’s alpha channel properly… better say wasn’t showing, because that’s finally fixed in IE7 now… so we are covered.

well, almost all can read flash . . . except the search engines . . .

Well, that’s the truth… but also, the truth is that not all can make Flash that is 100% compatible with every single browser. Many Flash sites don’t work properly on Mozilla engine based browsers, just because their creators didn’t pay attention to all factors when they compiled them… If they did, the result would be: Flash sites that work perfectly in all environments, regardless of the type of browser engine… :slight_smile:

Xhtml/css sites work in alternative devices such as palm pilots, cellphones, and handicapped access devices. I have a feeling Flash hasn’t addressed those issues at all. And considering bandwidth issues on wireless devices it’s laughable to think any of the flash sites I’ve seen would ever load on a cellphone. Language support? I dunno about Flash. I know my xhtml/css sites are translatable.

Accessibility of the information on the web to all is one of the biggest reasons behind web standards. It’s been Microsoft’s biggest failing. Though it seems the IE engineers who are working on IE7 are truly trying to improve IE, they’re hampered by two things- they’re building on a poor foundation (can we say sandbox? broken box model?) and they’re going against the dictates of a corporate culture that has always tried to dominate the market by use of proprietary standards. I applaud the openness of those engineers who, by blogging what’s going on are at least letting us developers know what’s coming down the pike, and letting us read between the lines on what might not and giving us a hint of why not. Of course it’s still going to complicate things for us Devs.

Interesting times ahead . . .

I am not really interested is my site going to be translatable or not, really… my clients want’s my sites in their native language. As long as I can provide them with what they want I am here. Of course, as long as they pay I am here… :wink:

Xhtml/css sites work on palm pilots etc, but there is no way to do something like this:

::: LINK 1 :::
::: LINK 2 :::
::: LINK 3 :::
::: LINK 4 :::
::: LINK 5 :::


Also, Flash works perfectly on cell phones.

On the other hand, there is really nothing it can be done in some other programming language, that can’t be done using AS (ActionScript) and integration between Flash and numberless other components…

Besides, this is not the right forum for this type of discussion… (just IMHO) this falls into Web Design related section, which doesn’t really exist in this and many other computer security related forums out there (too bad but what can we do… :-\ ).

Did you ever stop to think that not everybody has flash or even wants it?

And it looks like you came here just to argue…

Flash player has autochecker feature… just try to uninstall it on your system and click on LINK 3 again… See ?

And those who doesn’t want it, can freely browse other sites as far as I am concerned. Flash is taking huge part in Web design, want it or not, and it puts everything else in the background… that’s the fact.

I haven’t seen any of your work but have certainly seen much of what SZC has done.
I’d sure love to compare your work to his and am sure there are many other in here who would also
enjoy a comparison.