Ok,
removed ZAC line reboot no popup
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@ sputnik365
could you reveal which process or processes are being guarded by PG ?.
Do you have any other Intrusion protection utilities running?
This would appear not to be the case as Alan has proven and a problem with your installation.
What processes does it run, see task manager, does it use say a Java applet (as what you mention downloads a client), etc. ?
Does it normally use secure communication HTTPS or normal HTTP pages ?
Well there is something taking up buffer space perhaps that might be either the poker client or something else as the errors in the extract of the log indicates “An operation on a socket could not be performed because the system lacked sufficient buffer space or because a queue was full.”
This however, is beyond my practical experience of avast and would need one of the Alwil team to get on the case.
I still feel there is something stopping your avast installation as that doesn’t follow what others have experienced with avast and zone alarm.
You didn’t answer my question about ProcessGuard as if you have it protecting avast that would possibly prevent uninstall and clearing registry entries, etc. So I feel you should disable it completely and try the reinstall including the use of the uninstall utility as has been previously mentioned. If for no other reason it takes something else out of the equation. You may find that PG is a pain in the rear to disable, I know I had lots of hassle uninstalling it (not disabling the protection or at the very least disabling protection on avast if you had that included).
I would take a look at processguard that can really get in the way of all sorts of installations. What have you got it protecting ?
Hi all,
Thank you very much for all your help.
With so many views of this thread maybe others have a similar problem?
ALan Your ZAC popup may be a legacy from an install before September 25, 2006
“improved detection of ZoneAlarm Pro (to prevent unnecessary WebShield incompatibility warnings)”
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-4-home_pro-revision-history.html
My laptop, which has an install of avast from before that date, although program autoupdated as usual, (latest version) still gives the popup.
LadbrokesPoker doesn’t use java for the downloaded version, although an outdated instance of javaw.exe autoruns for another app.
just 1 process, MPPoker.exe
Secure, although whether HTTPS or not I will know later(is there any alternative? maybe proprietry)
Yes, tell me about the trouble PG can cause hence the reinstall in safemode.
However, it is an essential part of my layered scurity.
I did try reinstalling with Windows running normally and PG properly disabled.
I have a method devised if anyone reading this needs to know.(disabling protection sometimes isn’t enough).
Laptop now has the same symptoms
OK, here is my security setup.
WPA encrypted wireless network behind a Linksys router
Resident
ZA personal firewall
Avast AV
AVG AS
Processguard
Spywareblaster
They do all play nice together
Occasional scans
Ad-Aware
SpybotS&d
Fsecure blbeta
Frequent cleanup with CCleaner
Online
Kaspersky
Symantec
TrendMicro HouseCall
Defrag : PerfectDisk Live
I suspect the trouble is caused by a recent major update of the poker software but why should WebShield mess it up?
Thank you very much for your time and trouble,
All the best
sputnik365 said:
ALan Your ZAC popup may be a legacy from an install before September 25, 2006
You are absolutely correct, I have just validated this on a Windows XP SP2 machine on which ZoneAlarm had never been installed.
As an aside to the Alwil team, what a decision - if you installed ZoneAlarm before a certain date it works one way - if you install or update ZoneAlarm after that date it works another way … and is improved? While I do understand the need to move forward I am very disappointed in the method chosen.
If this is correct, maybe ZoneLabs has finally improved their code to face this incompatibility.
If this is correct, it would be great if Alwil change this avast4.ini feature after all 8)
Sometimes, it would be great if instead of our guesses, some official word is dropped in some threads :-\ :-\
Sorry for the delay in geting back this was a little more detailed than I had time for.
Yes PG got in the way so much for me I got rid of it.
All of the software mentioned with exception of PG and possibly the Poker program (see below) should work just fine together, I have used most of it myself with no problems.
You mentioned an outdated version of javaw.exe, this used to cause problems for the email scanner as people commonly used email ports to communicate with p2p clients the email scanner expects email protocols and this caused timeouts until javaw.exe was excluded from the [Mailscanner} section.
Did the old poker program ever use javaw.exe ?
Perhaps MPPoker.exe does something similar communicates with the host if that communication is outside what the web shield monitors any layout information (if passed) may simply be lost leading to layout/format errors.
I’m clutching at straws here as I have absolutley no idea what MPPoker.exe does.
Similar communication issue used to cause problems with web shield and ZA Pro’s privacy function, when a logon was required the user name and password were entered on an http page, validated on an https page and if valid redirected to another http page. During this flip flop between secure and unsecure pages the logon info appeared to be lost and the logon failed. This is why the ZA Compatibility came about, so it is possible that if MPPoker.exe has any communication function outside of the http port 80 then that info may be lost.
I think you need to ask the Poker site what in simple terms MPPoker.exe does to see if there is something that might cause these issues or if they can be circumvented.
In other avast providers it is possible to ignore programs from scanning, but I don’t know if this is possible in the Web Shield as I believe it isn’t monitoring outbound conections (otherwise it would detect malware I upload for confirmation scanning at virustotal, etc.). In the other providers it is possible to edit the avast4.ini adding the line IgnoreProcess= followed by the program to ignore e.g. IgnoreProcess=MPPoker.exe to the [WebScanner] section. I suspect this won’t work, but it is worth a try and easy to do and reverse.
Other than that I think you may have to disable the web shield to play poker, though why it would also be a problem after you finish playing is beyond me. You may need to close the poker program and also End Task any Service that might be running.
Interestingly a google search for MPPoker.exe returns many hits, several of them from security based web sites.
Hi
Did the old poker program ever use javaw.exe ?not as far as I know
IgnoreProcess=MPPoker.exe to the [WebScanner] sectionDidn't
I think you may have to disable the web shield to play pokerAnd all other browsing :'(
I think you need to ask the Poker site what in simple terms MPPoker.exe does to see if there is something that might cause these issues or if they can be circumvented.will do
End Task any Service that might be running.No, MPPoker shuts down clean as far as taskmanager knows
Interestingly a google search for MPPoker.exe returns many hits, several of them from security based web sites.Nothing to worry about, you get that with almost anything, from HijackThis logs. Ladbrokes and MPPoker is clean
Interestingly, i have a set of pages that load OK as well as a set that don’t. (WithMPPoker running)
I am starting to think it may be a combination of pages with images on, and errors on the page (as shown in FF eror console)
The latest thing I have tried is:
Uninstall Ladbrokes
Uninstall Avast
Uninstall ProcessGuard
Clean up the registry with Registry Mechanic
Install an old version of Avast From march 2006 without allowing it to update
Browsing just the same
Now reinstalled everything
Just to clarify with MPPOker running most pages don’t load correctly but usually
after multiple refreshes they are acceptable
Without it running, a lot load ok or after 1 refresh.
I thank you for your time and trouble with this.
Happy New Year
Your welcome, I guess we will have to see what the poker site say.
A Happy New Year to you.