Why are you using Windows System Restore ? It is a crap meganism, and is normally causing more problems than it solves. Better use an image backup - combined with a file backup policy. Never never never use WSR !
Red, please, don’t say that. We know the limitations of Windows System Restore.
But it is a Windows feature since XP…
avast can’t ignore it. Comodo Time Machine that could replace it, stop being developed.
avast should take a look. I could search the forum for other recent user having the same problem.
Bashing or saying anything about Windows System Restore won’t help imho.
Hello Tech,
I tried to do a system restore with avast installed and System Restore failed. Is this because of avast’s self-protection module and does this have to be disabled before using System Restore? I never had a failure with System Restore before.
System Restore is not crap, it’s a very useful feature and i often use it. So Tech’s rant is well placed. I haven’t had such problem yet but still it’s worth re-checking it.
Tech, have you restored the system to a point before avast! installation? Such problems usually happen in such scenarios. Program stills tarts itself but since many things were removed by System Restore, it just fails.
I believe that WSR is a handy functionality from MS. My WSR stopped working for some unknown reason in both my PCs quite sometime now. But when it was up and running I used it quite a lot.
Anyway, I also believe that this is not the point of discussion. Irrespectively of whether someone uses the WSR or not, I have to agree with Tech, that the Avast Team should really have a look into this.
I also used to have problems with System Restore; more often than not I was unable to restore restore points that were made with avast’s self-defense module enabled. I think with that module disabled I have never had problems, and I know that System Restore was always stable and reliable on my PC when avast was, well, not installed.
My last (and problematic) version of avast free was 6.0.1289 on windows 7/64. Now I’m running it on a virtual machine, waiting for this to be fixed.
I had to do a system restore a while back and I did get it to work. It was with a few heart flutters however.
First, I had forgotten about disabling the resident protection feature. The first boot after system restore totally hung my system - black screen. Manually powered down the PC. Next boot got me to the desktop and system froze again. Manually powered down again and third boot did work. Received message from WIN 7 that the system had been sucessfully restored.
BTW - Avast is not the only one with system restore issues. Norton’s products have problems also. Probably due to it’s resident protection features which are extremely aggresive.
As an alternative that works, I installed Rollback Rx on my computer and shut SR off. Restoring to an earlier snapshot takes 10 seconds. Wait for a sale to purchase at BitsDuJour.
The trouble with windows xp or vista restore, that it takes critical snapshots of windows configuration at that time related to time/date stamps and avast will not like this and locks up showing modules not running even fix now will not work.
If i have to do system restore at any time ie if windows fails to run i remove avast / restore to an earlier time in safe mode. Reboot and re-instal avast from scratch.
No problems!
So the only way to do a system restore with avast! is to uninstall avast! first. Isn’t it possible to do a restore with avast’s system protection turned off? Also, I am wondering if creating system restore points manually with avast’s system protection turned off would also work. This is kind of confusing.
That wasn’t said, some state simply disabling the avast self-defence module is enough as at times the system restore is going to try and delete avast files (so it tries to block that action).
Also as has been suggested if you use system restore from safe mode that should work as avast doesn’t run from safe mode.
Though there is often an unexpected consequence of running system restore, if it does remove some avast files then it is very likely that you may have to reinstall avast.
I’m finding it hard to make a generalized complaint about Avast. I’ve got it on two other computers, XP with WSR enabled and Vista without WSR. It works perfectly on those systems. But I recently acquired a Dell with XP SP3 and it’s been nothing but problems. Just when it seems to be working good something else goes wrong. I finally uninstalled it on this computer.
Latest beta 6.0.1352 (before the problem occur I’ve upgraded from 6.0.1351).
And what about the old /forceinstall switch. I’ve forgotten it. Can it be used?
Will it work if we have access to an .msi file and force the installation with switches?