Irregular Updates 

DavidR · 2015-07-25T15:31:14.000Z

Skakara post:3:

Eddy, please do read the post more carefully before launching an attack on other users.

In the attached picture, Avast virus update history page is clearly missing the 150724-1 while the Avast application of the user shows it installed.

It might not be missing as such if there were only engine updates then there may not be an entry for it. The actual VPS Updates does more than just virus definition updates. This has happened in the past, but as Pondus said sometimes the web page isn’t updated as quickly as it should.

But it doesn’t help clarity of what has been updated. Now with streaming updates, the VPS updates are not as critical as before and I guess that too would include the VPS update webpage.

BeSecure · 2015-07-25T16:17:33.000Z

DavidR post:6:

@ Be Secure
You should still be getting the streaming updates (image1 & 2) when you get the next VPS update it contains the previous streaming updates. So you should still be getting updates and you aren’t unprotected.

The latest VPS update is 150725-0 (image3).

Yes.I did a force update and get latest VPS update 150725-0.Why the VPS lower every time@DavidR? Only 207 stream updates in 24 hours did you believe that? :o

DavidR · 2015-07-25T17:46:10.000Z

Because we all live in different time zones, streaming updates are going to be released relating to Central European Time and I’m only 1 hour different you are many hours ahead. But overall it should be the same/balance out, you may get a large batch of them after you first start your PC.

My guess there are times when the streaming updates aren’t released as frequently (night time).

BeSecure · 2015-07-26T02:51:22.000Z

DavidR post:10:

Because we all live in different time zones, streaming updates are going to be released relating to Central European Time and I’m only 1 hour different you are many hours ahead. But overall it should be the same/balance out, you may get a large batch of them after you first start your PC.

My guess there are times when the streaming updates aren’t released as frequently (night time).

you not answering the question-why the VPS lower every time?now only 4,125,461.

CraigB · 2015-07-26T05:07:00.000Z

Signatures reduce as part of house keeping, new signatures can/will cover many of the old thereby covering more and reducing numbers at the same time.

DavidR · 2015-07-26T12:28:17.000Z

Be Secure post:11:

DavidR post:10:

Because we all live in different time zones, streaming updates are going to be released relating to Central European Time and I’m only 1 hour different you are many hours ahead. But overall it should be the same/balance out, you may get a large batch of them after you first start your PC.

My guess there are times when the streaming updates aren’t released as frequently (night time).

you not answering the question-why the VPS lower every time?now only 4,125,461.

Well it isn’t lower every time, if it just got bigger and bigger every time it would get completely unmanageable. Just look in your defs folder, one VPS folder is 112MB in size for the full virus database. They are continually optimizing the virus signatures to detect more from less signatures.

I have been using avast for a little over 11 years and I can remember the VPS size being around 30+MB.

Eddy · 2015-07-26T13:30:20.000Z

you not answering the question-why the VPS lower every time?

And again, little (re)search would have given you the answer.

The VPS sometimes gets (a bit) smaller and sometimes larger.
It all depends on what is removed, changed, added as well as what new/better protection the application itself (or one of the components) has gotten.

lucD · 2015-07-26T15:52:16.000Z

As the number of streaming updates is shown for a rolling 24 hour period, I don’t suppose the time zone of any given user matters.

BeSecure · 2015-07-26T16:22:02.000Z

Eddy post:14:

you not answering the question-why the VPS lower every time?
And again, little (re)search would have given you the answer.
The VPS sometimes gets (a bit) smaller and sometimes larger.
It all depends on what is removed, changed, added as well as what new/better protection the application itself (or one of the components) has gotten.

Hey Eddy i’m not asking you this question and it is my right to know the good things about avast!.Information is improtent to me and all the avast! users. 8)

schmidthouse · 2015-07-26T16:27:55.000Z

Be Secure post:16:

Eddy post:14:

you not answering the question-why the VPS lower every time?
And again, little (re)search would have given you the answer.
The VPS sometimes gets (a bit) smaller and sometimes larger.
It all depends on what is removed, changed, added as well as what new/better protection the application itself (or one of the components) has gotten.

Hey Eddy i’m not asking you this question and it is my right to know the good things about avast!.Information is improtent to me and all the avast! users. 8)

Eddy was simply suggesting you use the SEARCH function first.

BeSecure · 2015-07-26T16:28:24.000Z

Thanks CraigB & DavidR For describe me about this.Also thank you Eddy.Have a Good day

Pondus · 2015-07-26T16:44:07.000Z

you not answering the question-why the VPS lower every time?now only 4,125,461.

it is not the fist time you ask ......

https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=169855

https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=169566.msg1204827#msg1204827

DavidR · 2015-07-26T17:48:22.000Z

lucD post:15:

As the number of streaming updates is shown for a rolling 24 hour period, I don’t suppose the time zone of any given user matters.

Of course it does as you can see from the two instances shown. The releases are based on Central European Time, what is shown on the users statistics is based on the system time (local time). It also depends when the avast program starts its 24hr period or if it is a rolling 24hr period. So far in the last 24hrs I now have only 194 streaming updates.

We see this very frequently in the forums and it is a very rare occasion when the number received in the last 24hrs is the same.

Then you add to the equation they may also receive a VPS update, which contains all of the previous streaming updates (received or not).

BeSecure · 2015-07-27T10:42:58.000Z

Still 150725-1 version. Release date 25/07/2015.No Update on 26.07.2015 & 27.07.2015.What happend to avast!? It is a server problem or what? can anybody conform this. ???

midnight · 2015-07-27T11:24:42.000Z

Be Secure post:21:

Still 150725-1 version. Release date 25/07/2015.No Update on 26.07.2015 & 27.07.2015.What happend to avast!? It is a server problem or what? can anybody conform this. ???

That’ the same version I have but it shows release date 7/27.2015.

Asyn · 2015-07-27T12:14:46.000Z

Be Secure post:21:

Still 150725-1 version. Release date 25/07/2015.No Update on 26.07.2015 & 27.07.2015.What happend to avast!? It is a server problem or what? can anybody conform this. ???

Just updated to 150727-1.

MartinZ · 2015-07-28T08:29:56.000Z

Hi guys,

Be Secure when you finally got the latest version? Do you please remember what was the delay between writing the post and actually got it?

The updates aren’t instant and it might happen that the website is updated faster than the update server you are connecting to.

Martin

BeSecure · 2015-07-28T10:26:26.000Z

MartinZ post:24:

Hi guys,

Be Secure when you finally got the latest version? Do you please remember what was the delay between writing the post and actually got it?

The updates aren’t instant and it might happen that the website is updated faster than the update server you are connecting to.

Martin

I am just perfomed a update(Manually) on 27th july 4.30pm and it is then updated to 150727-1.On 26th july to 27th july(3pm) there are no update (VPS) at all,But the avast! update website listed 150726-1 and 150726-2 is released.Now everything seem to be fine.Latest version is 150728-0.

BeSecure · 2015-08-03T01:21:32.000Z

Same problem encounter:(.Avast! virus update history says it is 2.8.2015 - 150802-1.But my avast! got 1.8.2015 - 150801-1.I do a force update no success.Pls Avast! fix this issue.It is so frustrating.

mchain · 2015-08-03T08:25:03.000Z

Source of frustration really is about using software from a third party who controls when and if updates are issued; you, as the user, cannot make the updates happen when you wish or think they should happen.

Vps updates can only be gotten when they are available on the avast server in your area, you can’t get them if they are not yet deployed.

One thing avast always does is to strive to not release virus definitions which result in false-positive detections of clean files, so verifying that this is not the case can result in delayed vps releases. McAfee borked XP systems a few years ago when they released a definition update that caused their antivirus to detect a clean Windows svchost file as malicious: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/mcafee-update--shutting-down-xp-machines/

Rather have it be the case that the newest avast vps updates are clean and without issues than have systems worldwide go down because of a major error in detection routines sent out.

Really, imo, streaming updates are more important than the daily vps updates as they patch the virus definitions in real-time as they happen. Whereas, as DavidR points out, the vps is a roll-up package of all previous streaming updates, including corrections of false positive detections and are issued up to five times per day. Normally one sees only two or three vps updates per day as a matter of course.

I’ve seen up to over 500+ streaming updates come in a 24-hour period, but normally only see around 150-200 per day. I think one reason for that is malware activity; likely higher on days more streaming updates come in.

Starting with version 8.0, avast has had streaming updates as their main protection, not the vps updates. The same page you attached will state that vps updates are made so to clean up any false-positive detections as they are discovered; that is the main reason, I think, the majority of vps updates are released now vs. avast versions earlier than 8.0. That is one difference you may not have seen yet.

IMO, it is the streaming updates that are more important to the average user rather than vps updates as they allow avast to offer up-to-date protection vs. waiting several hours for new virus definition updates to arrive at your desktop.

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