Mail Shield "insert message" options - gone from 'Pro' and 'IS' or only 'Free'?

I probably should have started a new topic in the first place rather than burying this question in the other thread

I can’t get my hands on a machine with 7.0.1456 IS right now in order to check for myself but can anyone tell me if the “insert message” options in the Mail Shield are removed from ‘Pro’ and ‘IS’ or only in ‘Free’?

In all honesty this is a greatly depreciated option (see below), so I would imaging that it isn’t in any of the avast versions and as far as I’m aware the Mail Shield functionality is the same in all versions.

Greatly depreciated in that it is easy to fake and these fake 'email scanned by XXXX (insert AV of choice) and found to be clean have been used in malicious emails in the past and who trust tat anyway, I certainly don’t.

Why is it needed when if an inbound email is infected avast will alert, brand the email Subject and remove any infected attachment, etc. For outbound email it too would alert if infected/suspicious, etc. the only real benefit is promotion of avast.

For me the thought of going backwards to an older version of avast with a lessor degree of protection, for something which provides zero extra protection for what are cosmetic reasons, is crazy.

Hi DavidR
Thanks for the ‘presentation’ but it’s not me you need to convince.
It’s efficacy may be depreciated but it’s presence is still appreciated by other users.

Anyway, I should be able to find out myself tomorrow.

I noticed that a while back and was a little disappointed, as I did use those options.
However as DavidR pointed out, they could be viewed as redundant/useless.
I don’t sweat the small stuff. :wink: :slight_smile:

Yes, but that really is what has to be made clear to those asking the question, it really is old hat and being used in some malicious emails. Who trusts it if the message is from other AVs so why would they trust it is from avast!.

It really doesn’t bring any additional in the way of security, potentially the reverse as opening an email could actually initiate a remote attack. So looking inside an email for a clean note could potentially put you at more risk, it certainly isn’t something I would rely on.

Just checked. http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=102472.msg821239#msg821239

Agree that avast! messages in clean emails are not essential but that doesn’t stop users who’ve noticed asking me how to get them back!

Hi,
there’re some users in italian board with the same problem.
Probably is stupid but is simple to get back the clean message in the mails:
just go under
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\application data\AVAST Software\AVAST\EmailShield.ini (xp Os)
or
C:\ProgramData\AVAST Software\Avast\EmailShield.ini (seven or vista Os)

and under the voice
[EmailScanner]
change the value from 0 to 1 (o inserting these voices if they are not present)

InsertNoteCleanMsgIn=1
InsertNoteCleanMsgOut=1

when you save the file, avast selfdefense module ask to permit the change of file (must response Yes)

Work OK on my Xp SP3 & avast 7.0.1466 free.

Thanks for the tip.

Slight problem however. The XP machine I just looked at was a clean install of 7.0.1466 and has no ‘EmailShield.ini’ or even ‘C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\application data\AVAST Software’ path.

I did find a shortcut for a now non-existant “C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast5\DATA\EmailShield.ini” in the “Recent” folder. I assume this was part of a previous version.

I have edited/added both “insertnote clean” in and out.
Will see if the edit works with my AIS on XPSP3. :slight_smile:

Edit: Not sure that has worked?? Nothing in the first email sent.
Will see when email returns.

The ‘C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\application data\AVAST Software’ folder (or rather a lower level folder) may be hidden. So the user would need to modify the Windows Explorer, Tools, Folder Options, to Show hidden files and folders.

Thanks David. No files are ‘hidden’. It’s slightly more serious than that.
There’s no ‘Avast’ folder of any kind in that location.
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@DavidR.
Mine looks a bit different as there is no .ini after the Shield.

Also, just to make sure: Does it matter ‘where’ (in the Configuration progression) the added ‘Insertnotes’ are placed?
Here’s where I placed them.
Sreenshot.

:o
On 3 pc ( 2 XP and 1 Vista) I can find that file…
On my home system (where I did the test) I’ve also did a clean install…

You must enable the visibility of file extension :wink:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ZA/windows-vista/Show-or-hide-file-name-extensions

Whilst it shouldn’t be in a different location try looking in the C:\Documents and Settings\username\application data\ folder.

Thanks David. :wink:
No worries, message inserting now, nice to have options :slight_smile:

Not sure why or how but I found ‘EmailShield.ini’ at,
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast5\DATA\

Anyway, I inserted the 2 command lines and it works!

As the pic shows, some weird stuff happening with the location and date. The only clue I’ve got for the file dates being 2002 is the user having installed avast! while the machine had a BIOS error (it’s a 2002 m/board).

Well it is partly down to the fact that this doesn’t appear to have been a clean install but continual program updates (?) retaining the old folder names, company name (Alwil not Avast Software), location and registry entries.

Happy you’ve find the file and so the solutions :wink:

It would be interesting to know from anyone of avast team if they are going to remove from the code program the support to these voice, or they what to leave it…

Indeed it would! And may add a supplementary question, “If the capability remains, why not leave the checkbox choices in the user interface?”

Re editing ‘EmailShield.ini’ files.
Of the 6 I’ve done so far, I’ve had to locate one in a strange location, then cut and paste another with lines from a working AIS 7.0.1426 installation file into an apparently incomplete 7.0.1466 version.
This is still less work than uninstalling avast! and installing (and configuring IMAP and SMTP SSL servers in) AVG. But I do sincerely hope it doesn’t get any trickier in forthcoming avast! editions.