No more Ewido Anti-Spyware -> now it's AVG Anti-Spyware

DavidR · 2006-10-04T13:26:39.000Z

OrangeCrate post:9:

David, I’m curious about your scan times. My full scan takes over an hour. The fast scan takes 30 minutes. About the same for both the now deleted Ewido 4.0, and the newly installed AVG 7.5. I normally run it without pausing the standard shield, but the times are virtually the same if I do. What’s your secret?

Edit:

Using 11 gigs on a 60 gig hard drive. Like you, I don’t sit in front of the computer waiting for it to finish, so it’s no big deal. Just curious.

No secret but, you don’t mention anything about your system spec., mine are nothing hot. I notice you have other security based software (Windows Defender) which is resident and I assume that you don’t disable it either these could combine to effectively slow the scan duration. I never have any other resident security program running when I do a scan, this avoids potential conflict and duplication of scanning.

On an avast standard scan it scans about 6GB of data so I can only assume it is similar. With the ewido/avgas Fast scan as it doesn’t mention GB of data scanned only the number of files/objects scanned so I don’t have a direct comparison.

In total across two HDDs I have 23.91GB of data, my second drive is primarily for ‘drive image’ back-ups and daily data file back-ups. I have the drive image files excluded in avast anyway but not in ewido/avgas.

bob3160 · 2006-10-04T13:39:39.000Z

Having only 24gig to scan makes it easy to see why your scans take such a short time.
I start my scans when I’m ready to get off the computer that way I make sure things are done by the time
I return in the mornijng.
I have a little more stored on my system than you: ;D ;D
C: 26.3 Gig
D: 82.8 Gig
E: 110.0 Gig
H: 18.9 Gig - External USB drive

Tot: 238.0 Gig

DavidR · 2006-10-04T14:01:52.000Z

Having only 24gig to scan makes it easy to see why your scans take such a short time.

It is not I that has an issue about duration but OrangeCrate, whom I quoted, he only has 11GB on a 60 GB HDD, even less than mine yet his scans take 1hr (full) and 30 minutes (quick) scan.

I’m not boasting how quick my scan is, I merely compared two like scans with the different versions of ewido/avgas. I know how little data I have on my HDDs I have a lot in of-line storage, CD/DVD for little used stuff but, I have never said/boasted how quick my scan is.

bob3160 · 2006-10-04T14:29:01.000Z

I have never said/boasted how quick my scan is.

David this has nothing to do with boasting. It simply points out that the amount of data being scanned is relevant to the time a scan will take. Nothing more and nothing less. :)

DavidR · 2006-10-04T14:44:25.000Z

It doesn’t do anything to point out why OrangeCrate with only 11GB of data has a Full/Quick scan duration of 1hr/30mins respectively when I have more data yet it takes a fraction of the time his takes.

That and only that was the reason for mentioning the data on my HDD and my comments about multiple resident scanners (not being disabled) may effect/account for some of the duration problem and the discrepancy between our scan durations.

Not to mention none of this is helping to explain this apparent discrepancy OrangeCrate is having, not just with my scan but others with more data. So I don’t intent to waste time with semantics, only trying if possible to explain what might cause this and hopefully see if it helps OrangeCrate.

system · 2006-10-04T17:38:03.000Z

I assume AVG wont concentrate on trojans like Ewido has, so is it dead now? Apart from that, I dont want any AVG software.

I dumped “Ewido” now and got a-squared, but are there any other good free (on demand) anti-trojans about?

system · 2006-10-04T19:19:05.000Z

I don’t really like AVG products, they debate every time there is a major upgrade if they should offer a free version or not, in fact I wouldn’t be suprised if they took away the free version of the antispyware product.

OrangeCrate · 2006-10-04T20:07:49.000Z

DavidR post:21:

No secret but, you don’t mention anything about your system spec., mine are nothing hot. I notice you have other security based software (Windows Defender) which is resident and I assume that you don’t disable it either these could combine to effectively slow the scan duration. I never have any other resident security program running when I do a scan, this avoids potential conflict and duplication of scanning.

I tried a quick scan with both avast and Defender turned off. Still 30 minutes. I only have 384 meg of ram on this machine, so I tried a quick scan from safe mode. 37 minutes. Go figure.

I don’t know what else to try, so, I think that I’ll file this whole matter under “Questions I spent too much time on, that really didn’t mean anything”.

My thanks to you and the others for your comments.

DavidR · 2006-10-04T21:03:33.000Z

stevejrc post:26:

I assume AVG wont concentrate on trojans like Ewido has, so is it dead now? Apart from that, I dont want any AVG software.

That is an assumption that I wouldn’t make in haste, they have already added some extra functionality to it so for now I have no reason to doubt their intentions. Otherwise I can’t see any reason to buy ewido out if they were going to abandon development/detection, especially as there is also a paid for version. For the time being I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

stevejrc post:26:

I dumped “Ewido” now and got a-squared, but are there any other good free (on demand) anti-trojans about?

Now you won’t be able to monitor if ewido a.k.a. avgas goes to hell in a hand basket or not.

bob3160 · 2006-10-04T22:26:26.000Z

in fact I wouldn't be suprised if they took away the free version of the antispyware product.

Knocking one company while flying the banner of another isn't exactly my cup of tea.... :( As David already mentioned, those remarks should only be made if you have facts to back them up. IMHO

system · 2006-10-04T23:02:58.000Z

bob3160 post:30:

in fact I wouldn't be suprised if they took away the free version of the antispyware product.
Knocking one company while flying the banner of another isn't exactly my cup of tea.... :( As David already mentioned, those remarks should only be made if you have facts to back them up. IMHO

Hi Bob,

You are right, I’m sorry, this is just me not liking Grisoft speaking :-[. My best wishes to the users of the new AVG Antispyware product.

system · 2006-10-04T23:30:20.000Z

Guess I’ll keep my Ewido 4.0 program and see how long it will function. I can always find something else.

Marc57 · 2006-10-05T15:35:35.000Z

They’re claiming Lower resource usage, has anyone seen a difference?

Lisandro · 2006-10-05T17:40:57.000Z

FreewheelinFrank post:12:

Purely to integrate with AVG: 7.5 is the version number of the new beta which includes anti-spyware scanning.

This is what I’ve looking for a long time: antivirus + antispyware in the same application 8)

DavidR · 2006-10-05T18:22:27.000Z

Tech this isn’t an integration of antivirus and anti-spyware, it is just Ewido with different clothes and some tweaking, which may be what is causing me grief, see below.

Well AVG-anti-spyware is no more on my system and I’m back to ewido 4.0, currently downloading updated signatures, quite a lot since I saved the ewido set-up file I downloaded in July.

After suffering my 4 replicable system lock-up it is history. Before any other security scan I pause standard shield and start the other scanner. I did a full scan which took about twice the time of the Quick scan, in line with what others have experienced. Once completed I closed the window using the X (top right) and tried to resume avast, no response, nothing else would work either, mouse pointer free to move and click to its hearts content but no action. No way to get Task manager open. So had to do a 5 second press of power button to try and get as tidy a shut-down as possible, followed by a power up.

I tried this again following the same sequence but this time I opened Task manager to have it ready and see what was going on. Even when you close the avgas window the avgas.exe is still running, I ended the process in task manager and tried to resume standard shield and the same problem, everything locked-up and had to do the 5 second Power button trick again, this time Windows wanted to check the disks because of the irregular shut-down.

I had suffered these lock-ups before but hadn’t taken much notice of the sequence of things, so I took the time to get it recorded in case anyone else is suffering this problem.

But, for me AVGAS is history and Ewido is back until such time as I can’t get updates for it and then, a-squared perhaps, we will see.

Lisandro · 2006-10-05T19:47:12.000Z

DavidR post:35:

Tech this isn’t an integration of antivirus and anti-spyware, it is just Ewido with different clothes and some tweaking, which may be what is causing me grief, see below.

Now I’ve read and see this. Thanks for the advice.
It’s a pity it’s not an integrated application… I thought it would in my first reading.

I’m considering, like you and others, to wait until migrate from ewido to avgas because of so many problems…

DavidR · 2006-10-05T20:21:27.000Z

Well it gets stranger, I can replicate the same issue in ewido even after a complete uninstall, registry clean-up of avgas, I never had a single problem with Ewido before.

Another point though when closing the ewido window after a scan the ewido.exe is also closed and removed from the task manager list (as I believe it should), so that differs from avgas.exe. I also noticed that there was no 30 trial period indicated as it did before even when upgrading from the earlier version and no entry for ewido on the msconfig, startup tab.

So even though I have cleaned registry and rebooted there would appear to be some form of hidden details to indicate I’ve already had 30 trial of ewido 4.0, not that I’m unduly worried about that.

I have however, to disable (set to manual) the guard.exe service from starting automatically on boot and see if that makes any difference.

bob3160 · 2006-10-05T20:38:52.000Z

Sorry David but I haven’t had any problems at all.
Maybe because I haven’t had Ewido on this computer ???

FreewheelinFrank · 2006-10-05T21:59:00.000Z

It's a pity it's not an integrated application... I thought it would in my first reading.

AVG 7.5 does include an integrated anti-virus anti-spyware package.

I tried out the free beta- seemed to slow my system down, although I didn’t do any objective tests. AVG haven’t employed the talents of the Ewido designers, because the GUI is still pure Win98 style, with the addition of a few incongruous modern icons.

Mac · 2006-10-06T01:50:11.000Z

Well it seems like mixed opinions on this application. I will stick with windows Defender which is free and has on access protection unlike AVGAS which losses that after 30 days

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