i guess i can close the graphic card and motherboards program

I would suggest close all bar Avast and winpatrol, the others will run when you need them and not at the whim of the programmer :slight_smile:

i should close winpatrol and avast also though ?

No keep those two running as the overhead is minimal for them and they are your security

its slow yet on the start or the shut down yet :slight_smile: the only programs that i have on the Start up List are those
Ctfmon.exe
AvastUI
LgdevAgt
LCDMON
LGDCORE
Logitech Desktop Messenger
the last 4 are from Logitecs hardware ( keyboard - mouse )
Thanks a lot for the help till now by the way :slight_smile:

When it locks on shutdown, does windows state what programme is hanging ?

non program . its closing everything and then its stacking abit on the Blue Windows Screen that is saying Windows is shutting down
http://www.google.gr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/startupshutdown/shuttingdown/winxppro.png&imgrefurl=http://www.guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/shuttingdown&h=600&w=800&sz=27&tbnid=eu8T-XMUXGlHaM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=123&zoom=1&usg=__H3qDOpHLVKfxKdZnqgTciXJiLCw=&docid=kEEGo23iW7mhuM&sa=X&ei=ut_WUaq5Gueu4AS5i4DwBQ&ved=0CDIQ9QEwAQ&dur=29

Prior to shutting down could you note using task manager which programmes are still running

on the processes tab?

Yes that is the one

Ok at the moment my computer is having 52 prosseces running as i told you before i will shut it down later and i will tell you

No wonder it is taking a while to shut down, generally I only have one or two at the most

Ok here is a screenshot i took when the computer load .
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/surn.png/

before i close the compute from the 56 proc it went to 35 i think or 30 and then it went to the blue screen of windows saying saving your setting and bla bla bla

Looking at that most appear related to a music application are you closing that programme before shutting down ?

well i dont know if somethings is running hidden
in the picture below you can see all my start up programs that they running on the right below on screen( Avast , Keyboard’s Screen program and keyboard’s extra keys program ,safety remove hardware and windows volume manager ) , also the msconfig and again the proc tabs
do you know maybe the name of the music program ?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/iqay.png/

ozinst.exe and karaoke.exe probably part of m-audio

security task manager , do you know this program ?

I did not see that one on your list

niah it was a program i found on the google that helps you clear the processes on your computer but its fail :slight_smile:

Do you use m-audio ? If not try uninstalling that and see if it helps