I’m not that crazy to run double AV/Firewall. But I am crazy enough to try other crap LOL.

And this win 8.1 install is like 3 weeks old and I was running avast free from the start.

Now I am even more confused, to make sure it was not a UAC/c drive/program filesXX issue I installed it else where, and it worked with avast on, tried to reproduce it, it stopped working and locked up explorer like it did before, tried a few more installs and it seems if I install it in one place then uninstall it and install it in another location it will work.

Now that’s some crazy footwork but I doubt its directly Avasts fault seems more like the ghost of UAC since I have had the bloody thing off since I installed Win 8.1…

Any thoughts other than nuke it and reinstall everything? LOL