What’s your problem with it, Chris? The Firefox developers and testers put all that work into it so that plugins like Flash, Silverlight, and QuickTime would be isolated from the Firefox process. Now, if a plugin hangs or crashes, it doesn’t take Firefox down with it. The short ten second timeout used in Fx 3.6.4 did cause a problem for some Farmville players. That has been increased to 45 seconds in Fx 3.6.6. If you don’t have Fx 3.6.6 already, then get it now: Help > Check for Updates.
Firefox 3.6.4 provides uninterrupted browsing for Windows and Linux users when there is a crash in the Adobe Flash, Apple Quicktime or Microsoft Silverlight plugins.
If a plugin crashes or freezes, it will not affect the rest of Firefox. You will be able to reload the page to restart the plugin and try again.
This information is wrong. That’s the default value already. If you want to disable OOPP – which I don’t recommend – then change one or more of the following prefs to false:
Silverlight: dom.ipc.plugins.enabled.npctrl.dll
QuickTime: dom.ipc.plugins.enabled.npqtplugin.dll
Flash: dom.ipc.plugins.enabled.npswf32.dll
I use the BarTab extension instead. But not to save memory: RAM isn’t an issue. Even with only 1GB RAM on Windows XP, I have enough RAM for running three or four separate Firefox profiles simultaneously, with plenty left over for the System Cache, a couple of World Community Grid tasks, and all the other processes running on my PC. I use BarTab to prevent all my tabs from reloading at the same time whenever I restart Firefox.
Are you suffering from having insufficient RAM on your PC, Chris? We may be able to help you out, but you should start a separate topic for that.
Hulu too. A small percentage of users, I think: small enough at least to be missed by a gazillion prelease testers like me. On my slow PC, I betcha I would have found the problem while I was beta testing Fx 3.6.4. Unfortunately, I don’t use Facebook or Hulu; and NoScript blocks Flash for me already. I never had any problems.
We're pushing out 3.6.6 as a chemspill (emergency) release as soon as it gets built and QAed to address the issue with Firefox crashes on Farmville and other complex flash pages. The only thing it does is increase the default dom.ipc.plugins.timeoutSecs to 45 rather than 10. This should address the majority of cases where we see Flash hangs/crashes that weren't there before.
The reason I dislike OPP is that I had never had an issue with Flash let alone crashing and even though I have a fairly decent amount of 4GB in this current PC of mine, I am memory conscious.
I was just typing those extensions not as absolutes
I was just sharing a piece of information which I myself wanted opinions from others
I suggest ripping out 2GB of RAM and sell it on ebay as I see no point in having RAM if you aren’t going to use it for what it is intended. If you don’t use RAM then more stuff is written to hard disk and has to be constantly swapped out to memory/HDD, this is much slower than using RAM.
If you use the same analogy on hard disk size there would be no point in having a 250GB or 500GB or 1TB HDD as much of it would be unused.
I was reading these posts and I think you misunderstood these addons (maybe I am wrong)
Actually, the above two extensions don’t force Firefox to reduce RAM
The First extension ‘RAMback’ just clears the internal Firefox caches
The second one ‘savememory’ just pauses the unused tabs - It is good if you open 20 or 30 tabs
I am not forcing Firefox to not use my RAM in anyway
I play a lot of Browser MMORPG games at one time so the savememory addon comes in handy because I open multiple game tabs at once and even 4GB can’t make my browser stable sometimes.
And this is where OPP messes up my Firefox, atleast it did in my Minefield
You can also use TooManyTabs addon
You can open a 100 tabs easily with this addon if you want to
Sorry to bore you folks with this Firefox mallarkey. The thread has become out of my depth as I am not familiar with a lot of the applications that you guys are discussing except that Flash needs to do some homework according to Firefox Specialist Alan Baxter.
My Firefox started slowing again and the laptop has started whining again with its 4GB RAM - but it is coping. It always starts whenver visiting The daily telegraph pages http://tinyurl.com/2cgj999 - whether it is the Disqus forum I do not know.
This time however Firefox is managing the problem - still struggles along and does the job with annoying “churning” slowness. I wish it would crash as that would give us an idea of what it is struggling with.
This list covers some of the known problems with Firefox 3.6, which will be resolved in future releases:
All Systems
If FIPS mode is enabled and certain files have been removed from the system, the browser may crash on startup (see bug 522041)
Microsoft Windows
Content over certain Flash videos may not disappear when the video plays (see bug 571313)
Older Flash videos on Download.com may fail to play. CNet has been notified of the issue (see bug 569104)
Some slower machines may see degraded mouse responsiveness when viewing certain Flash videos (see bug 561818)
Linux and Unix
Firefox may have difficulty playing system sounds in some distributions of Linux (see bug 536996)
Zooming out on some sites may result in grey or black lines appearing (see bug 468496)
@ HPY
I have just visited that page link that you gave using firefox 3.6.6 with NoScript and RequestPolicy add-ons, on opening I immediately temp allowed blogs.telegraph.co.uk and the page loaded relatively quickly for me even being on dial-up. I then temp allowed the cross site scripting to disqus.com and the page reloaded, again relatively quickly. There doesn’t appear to be any additional content actually coming from disqus.com though.
For me no problems on that page, so I’m not sure what might be on it that is causing you problems.
As you probably know NoScript was updated a couple of days ago. This morning I opened Firefox Add-ons and ran the update for all. NS first stalled on the update, on second try it succeeded with a small “adaptation” update, presumably particular to my system.
Since then I have been working with two windows - each with about 8 tabs, some containing video. Works as new!
I guess I’ll have to keep those Addons manulayy udated as a weekly routine.
First I don’t allow avast to auto update the program or add-ons as I’m on dial-up. However, there are times when even when I use manual add-on update NS doesn’t report an update in that process, I think this is more down to the firefox update process. But if I visit the NS home page I find that there is an update, but I don’t get paranoid about it, if I haven’t seen an update for some while for NS I visit the site.