Ransom for a Ransom

bob3160 · 2017-07-18T18:11:57.000Z

saull28 post:3:

For the very reason people buy now the paid version, that is not the only reason people buy a paid version, you’re oversimplifying

There certainly are other differences between the paid and the free version. I simply replied to the one item you mentioned in your post.
Behavior Shield already gives you a lot of ransomware protection in the free version. If you want to see the differences between free and paid, take a look here: https://www.avast.com/en-us/compare-antivirus

saull28 · 2017-07-18T18:34:11.000Z

Eddy post:4:

So in order to get rid of ransomware we have to pay your ransomware
No, as avast nor part of it is ransomware. No, as the anti-ransomware shield helps to protect against ransomware.
There is no free av that is offering all the things the paid ones do.

I’m sure avast doesn’t mind making everything free if you pay for all the expensive’s.

it’s not exactly ransomeware but similar, and taking advantage of the current “terrorist software” people fear, specially adopting a similar tactic, is morally low.

It’s expenses and People already do, by the millions probably, the reason Avast is mostly free on the 3 important protection layers, is because people bypass security software and uses it as full versions if they want to, software companies become the enemy to “defeat” to get the protection, and pirates do, and spreads all over the planet in a matter of a few hours and stays there; OTOH freeware full protection is very attractive, software companies become allies and it gets even more popular than distributing shareware or time-limited full versions or the pirated version combined, people that use pirated “free” antivirus become potential buyers and you can deliver practically 0-cost, instant, directly to the user advertisement through the freeware client, through Internet, Avast publishes that they have 100,000,000+ users worldwide, pretty sure people gives up to advertisement eventually, plus people have a heart mostly and will support if they can afford it, so they get easily 100,000,000+ €/$us a year, so it’s not really free, nothing really is, but it’s a great altruistic model that works really well because people recognizes it; so no, I don’t need to pay for the expenses, get a clue before posting OK?

Eddy · 2017-07-18T18:40:16.000Z

I strongly suggest you get your facts correct first.

saull28 · 2017-07-18T18:44:10.000Z

bob3160 post:5:

saull28 post:3:

For the very reason people buy now the paid version, that is not the only reason people buy a paid version, you’re oversimplifying

There certainly are other differences between the paid and the free version. I simply replied to the one item you mentioned in your post.
Behavior Shield already gives you a lot of ransomware protection in the free version. If you want to see the differences between free and paid, take a look here: https://www.avast.com/en-us/compare-antivirus

I know the difference, I read them every few months when I reinstall Win or install a new Avast AV on a client PC, I know it’s altruistic of Avast to give us such a quite complete version for free and just a potential buying option and a quick free registration anualy, under no obligation on their part to do so, I appreciate it greatly but it’s mutually beneficial also, and they don’t need to give a new technology for free neither, but the way it’s offered bothers me, but I guess that’s why I don’t like Capitalism and I advocate for better Economic System, is Darwinian worse than in the jungle: oh you fear that? if you give me something-something, I’ll protect you, I picture a asian descendant in Chicago with a black eye paying some goons for protection that some punks did last night… granted we don’t ahve Internet Police and I hope we never do, but I don’t know, I guess there are better ways to make money than to take advantage of the fear of the people, this is at least morally questionable for me

saull28 · 2017-07-18T18:47:00.000Z

Eddy post:7:

I strongly suggest you get your facts correct first.

Oh I’m probably off, but I’m pretty sure not way off, this is just the way humans behave, this is our current Capitalist Economic System and how business are done, an approximation in this case is enough

bob3160 · 2017-07-18T18:51:21.000Z

saull28 post:9:

Eddy post:7:

I strongly suggest you get your facts correct first.

Oh I’m probably off, but I’m pretty sure not way off, this is just the way humans behave, this is our current Capitalist Economic System and how business are done, an approximation in this case is enough

Some people still work for a living.

saull28 · 2017-07-18T19:05:01.000Z

I know, we all do, but I never wrote anybody didn’t, as a matter of fact it’s impossible to not work and get money if you don’t in a Capitalist System, unless you’re rich, and even when Avast make probably a lot more than they need, they offer Excellent quality service, fast response, great quality optimized code, no complains on that regard, so they don’t do it for the money IMO, that’s why this delivery bothered me. We don’t work for a living, we make business fr a living actually, work for a living is someone that gets everything by him/her-self, hopefully someday we’ll work for us all, as a species, as we should

Pondus · 2017-07-18T19:31:19.000Z

Lucky for you there is RansomeFree … and it is FREE https://ransomfree.cybereason.com/

Eddy · 2017-07-18T19:32:21.000Z

I'm pretty sure not way off

Don't be so sure of yourself. You are way of if I only look at the amount of users already. You are of by +/- 300.000.000 users.

Ofcourse they do it for the money, guess why it is a commercial company.

saull28 · 2017-07-18T22:23:17.000Z

Eddy post:13:

I'm pretty sure not way off
Don't be so sure of yourself. You are way of if I only look at the amount of users already. You are of by +/- 300.000.000 users.
Ofcourse they do it for the money, guess why it is a commercial company.

I can’t be that off as the error margin is greater than the whole amount and the numbers you propose make no sense, as how Avast can have -200,000,000 if any negative user count is even possible. And I’m pretty sure of myself because I used previous years amount and extrapolated according to a growth they published and make sense since is the only Anti-virus offering full and quality protection for free and people like it and download it, this is rather common, so that and I’m not a dumbass making stupid claims out of spite, so until you can post something coherent why don’t you take a nice big hot cup of STFU?

bob3160 · 2017-07-18T22:32:10.000Z

saull28 post:14:

Eddy post:13:

I'm pretty sure not way off
Don't be so sure of yourself. You are way of if I only look at the amount of users already. You are of by +/- 300.000.000 users.
Ofcourse they do it for the money, guess why it is a commercial company.

I can’t be that off as the error margin is greater than the whole amount and the numbers you propose make no sense, as how Avast can have -200,000,000 if any negative user count is even possible. And I’m pretty sure of myself because I used previous years amount and extrapolated according to a growth they published and make sense since is the only Anti-virus offering full and quality protection for free and people like it and download it, this is rather common, so that and I’m not a dumbass making stupid claims out of spite, so until you can post something coherent why don’t you take a nice big hot cup of STFU?

That certainly isn’t going to win you any friends. Maybe it’s time to sit back and cool off a bit.

saull28 · 2017-07-19T00:04:13.000Z

He deserves it, I was respectful to him and he comes with insulting stupid statements and mockery, I don’t like stupid people, I do have a sense of humor for intelligent comments, and believe me I went easy on the guy, maybe I’m a bit exaggerated but I really don’t like people that clowns around on a serious topic, just because they can’t use their brain right. But thanks for the advice, I’ll take it into account: maybe I’ll add global rule to my mental firewall: Block and Ignore incoming Idiotic protocols from source any destination me

Eddy · 2017-07-19T00:24:10.000Z

-200m ?
No clue where you got that from but certainly not from this thread.

As I said before, get your facts correct before speaking.

stibi · 2017-07-19T08:18:14.000Z

saull28 post:8:

… but I guess that’s why I don’t like Capitalism and I advocate for better Economic System, is Darwinian worse than in the jungle: oh you fear that?

You / we can advocate for many wishes. But what is the connection especially to Avast?

Your OS is commercial & must be paid. Your word processor mostly is commercial & must be paid.

The virus protection tool I use is free. And as there are some ways to secure my whole system against ransomware I don’t need paid extras

bob3160 · 2017-07-19T12:42:01.000Z

There will always be those that expect to get everything for nothing even when it’s at the expense of someone else.
It’s called entitlement. (I also have another word for it but this is a family oriented forum. )

saull28 · 2017-07-20T05:38:57.000Z

Note: this post has been edited due to foul language.

TrueIndian · 2017-07-20T06:22:44.000Z

saull28 post:20:

if you are so kin for paying, why haven’t you bought the full version? previously you agreed with me and now you’re on the side of Eddiy the , you

Well we aren’t getting all the avast! features in the free anyway so:

There will always be those that expect to get [b]everything[/b] [b]for nothing[/b] even when it's at the expense of someone else. It's called entitlement. :) (I also have another word for it but this is a family oriented forum.)

Speaking of entitlement or whatever they call it, I think we all should calm down a bit and watch our tone…atleast for now.Saull28,I think you can rest your anger for now there is nothing posted here with mockery or bad intentions even if it looks like it.When you are exchanging messages digitally it doesn’t give you the same feel as you talk one on one in person so you must have felt it the wrong way.

saull28 · 2017-07-20T06:39:21.000Z

I’ll take your advice TrueIndian, and calm down even when eddy is mocking me for sure, he’s not worth my attention, idiots should be just ignored since you can¡t call them out on forums because you break the rules even when they’re breaking them first making mockery and baiting you to insult them when they don’t like your post, so you get into this kind of threads and get banned, so they win, coward tactic from a coward, but it works, because that’s how digital conversations work and little loser cowards instead of shutting up they have to go piss someone off becaue they’re full of passive aggression.

And it’s not entitling myself, they can charge for it, but I explained how and why in my previous messages

Eddy · 2017-07-20T10:37:27.000Z

I’m not mocking you at all, just correcting false/incorrect information that you have been giving.

bob3160 · 2017-07-20T12:49:03.000Z

TrueIndian post:21:

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Speaking of entitlement or whatever they call it, I think we all should calm down a bit and watch our tone…atleast for now.Saull28,I think you can rest your anger for now there is nothing posted here with mockery or bad intentions even if it looks like it.When you are exchanging messages digitally it doesn’t give you the same feel as you talk one on one in person so you must have felt it the wrong way.

Entitlement simply means assuming that you have a right to something just because …
We all know there are only certain things we have a right to without working for it. Death and Taxes are two of those things.
There’s no such thing as a free lunch.
No one is getting excited. No one is attacking any one. It’s time to remember that there are three sides to every story.

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