Thanks,

Which means you let them listen into the “secure” line.

I know you have to do this for the US people, if you are going to have business in the US.
But for all of us outside US, it should be possible to have a real secure line.

Best regards
Henning

PS. At the moment I have my Avast turned off, as it see the SKSE module loader for Skyrim as a virus. And Skyrim is way more important than virus protection. ( I know, what I am doing! 30+ year as system admin )