Security applications to partner avast!

Hello to everybody, specially all of you with computing security concerns!!
I hope this info will show you another way to protect your PC and a clearer aproach to securing a Windows based computers.

Inspired in Pavel’s Forum Policy, I compiled a small list of security tools that just work very well partnering with avast!. These tools are the ones that I use everyday because their power, stability, effectiveness and low resource impact:

Tiny PersonalFirewall Pro - but the Standard version is as good as this one.
I found this to be the very best firewall out there, better than Agnitum, ZA, Kerio, etc. Kaspersky’s Anti-Hacker is very good too but it is incompatible with avast! so bye bye Dr. Zivago. Moreover, alongside traditional features found in common firewalls this one let you keep an eye on every application, DLL, etc. you run so you have a multi-layered protection that covers lot of vector entry points of infections.

Spybot Search & Destroy’s resident module TeaTimer - protects registry, startup folder and IE from being hijacked, etc. This one is rather heavy -about 10mb in memory and 0-2% cpu cycles- but it does an excellent job. There’s a fully functional free version but of course donations are welcomed.

ProcessGuard Full - A must have. This application cover your system with a thin -and I mean a very thick- layer of protection warning you each time you run an unknown or changed application, prevent processes to kill other processes or modify them, install services, global hooks (this is what keyloggers are based on), etc. As I said earlier a must have, and best of all it uses minimun memory and even less resources - this is a pearl beatifully crafted like avast! of course ;D ;D ;D There’s a free basic version.

At this time I’m not using any anti-spam tool but I think I will turn to Spamnhilator, an excellent free anti-spam software.

Last but no least -Yesss, I allways wanted to say that!!- please give a try to another MUST have “AMUST 1-Defender” - I came on this one short time ago after reading an article posted by Vlk I think (or it was DavidR) about DropMyRights, an utility that let you run your applications -specially IE and Outlook/OE- with limited user rights instead admin rights, thus blocking lot of spyware/malware you can catch when surfing the net or reading an infected email. Altough DropMyRights is a command-line based application that works with at least every piece of software you can find, 1-Defender is more graphical oriented with and atractive GUI that makes protecting IE and Outlook a snap, you should really try it and better of all IT’S FREE.
Please note that the only glitch I found in this software is the link to IE it creates when installed, you must change that icon that in fact takes you to the setup screen for the one named “AMUST 1-Defense” inside program folder in the Start menu.

Well, as it was said on lot of post here and there choosing one or another software security package like firewalls or antivirus -or cars, TVs, dogs, beers, girls, surfboards, etc.- is a taste matter BUT I found for me the combination of those programs very reliable, and when I say reliable I mean stability, speed, low resources consumption, effectiveness, configurability, adaptability to user taste and not the other way… I think of course avast! have all of that great advantages and that’s why I prefer it over full packages.

Two final notes:
Before I decide stay with the applications I mentioned above I tried a lot of software packages like Bitdefender Security Suite 9, Kaspersky Internet Security 6, Norman Internet Security, NOD32 (only antivirus), F-Secure and AntiVir some of wich are better than others but I disagree with them in some aspects like awfull GUI (BitDefender) or lot of resources consumption (F-Secure, Norman, BitDefender); Kaspersky is an excellent choice but I think this new breed they offspring in their labs needs still a little polish. And yes, buying three separate applications as I proposed may be a bit more expensive, but think about it for a second and put in the balance the lot of resources you save! When you install one of that competitors packages they can be very good ones but you need a Cray-B to just run the notepad, and I don’t talked yet about Panda, Symantec (Norton), Trend Micro or worst of all McAfee wich I recomend you stay away from them because they will convert your new P4 in an old XT ;D ;D ;D ;D

Finally, I see a lot of people -like my fine neighbor Tech- recommend Ewido to complement avast!, a thing with I totally disagree just because that anti-trojan alongside Microsoft’s [anti-spyware] Wndows Defender or Sunbelt’s CounterSpy, to name few, are system cycles and memory munchers because they inspect everytime -like paranoics- all the possible entry vector points thus wasting a lot -and please keep this in mind, A LOT- of precious computing resources, just like the Windows Media Player, but that’s another discussion :wink:

Anyway, it’s a matter of taste :smiley:

One more thing! It was very helpfull be assisted by the WordReference.com website when writing this post, a good online resource to translate lot of words and basic sentences !!

By the way, if I make a mistake on what was exposed here and you notice it SHUT UP… no, of course not, really :wink: Please feel free to correct me and contribute to help with security tips, all comments are welcomed.

Be safe.

I forget to mention my specs (may be it can help you in someway):

Soft: I’m running WinXP Pro sp2 Spanish whith Automatic Updates set to notify before download -pay special attention to that- with ProcessGuardian, TeaTimer (Spybot), TinyPF Pro, avast! Pro, O&O Clevercache 6, Dachshund’s AntiCrash, Hare and Zoom, Extensis Suitcase 9 (font manager) and Windows Live Messenger as default background. I also run TuneUp Utilities 2006 and Tweaki… for Power Users (from Jermar) and XPLite to tweak down the system to the bare bones ;D
Hard: A good one Gigabyte mobo with P-IV 2.4 Prescott (2nd cache 1mb), nVidia GeForce 6200 fanless, SB Audigy, 1 mb ram, and two 80mb HD, the older one IDE and the newest SATA, holding the SATA HD C (system) and D (all purpose) partitions and IDE E (Mi documents and alike) and F (system and users temp dir) partitions.
Oh, best of all, I have Acronis True Image Workstation covering my back, do a favor to yourselves and get a cloning software, you will thank me later :wink:

All that with 1mb of ram :smiley:

If you are not a gamer, you should give Linux a try.

Opensuse 10.1 and Fedora Core 5 are great and easy to use.

Out of the two i prefer opensuse and i am using that at the moment.

Cool to meet you Duke!

First of all thank you very much for posting, I know what you say is right -Acronis boot safe in it’s own linux!!!- but because I use Corel and other applications that runs only on Win I’m sticked to it. And don’t tell you what my mother can do me if I rid off Windows and Office - I think about that and feel pain in the stomach XD

And yes, I know that I almost can hack the Pentagon with a 1mb Linux system - Windows is an evil hardware cruncher and seems with Vista they’re planning to make you buy a Pentium-Triple Core with 238473598 terabytes of memory just to show a ‘Hi world’ dialog on screen >:(

But sure you can help me on this, which’s the difference between the distros you talk about? I used to think Fedora was intended for corporate use…

Sorry for the bad english :slight_smile:

Hi mat77…

This is the case with probably 95% of the new software available anymore. As the hardware specs have improved and increased with speed over the years, so has the bloat :wink:

Best Regards…

Opensuse is oriented more at the home user and features more GUI’s to aid the user setting up the system and comes with many games and applications.

For an out of the box windows like experience opensuse is the way to go.

Fedora Core is more of a genral purpose distro which is used for many things including corporate use but what is great about it is that it is flexible. If you want it to be for home use you can easily set it up.

I have to agree that linux in general lacks some very great programs like adobe photoshop, macromedia dreamweaver…

Hopefully more software developers will start to take the linux community more serious as more people start to use it.

Back to topic,

I would recommend jetico firewall to use with avast.

It may not be the easiest firewall but once you learn how to use it, you will like it, hopefully :stuck_out_tongue:

http://www.jetico.com/

http://www.download.com/Jetico-Personal-Firewall/3000-10435_4-10418587.html?tag=lst-0-1

I won’t say that much… System Security Monitor (SSM) could do it with less resources. For me, PG is a buggy software that could mess your computer daily work. Too heavy on resources. The light WinPatrol and, if you’re paranoid ;D, SSM, will do it better in my opinion.

This is the case with probably 95% of the new software available anymore. As the hardware specs have improved and increased with speed over the years, so has the bloat ;)

yes of course but that’s only one side of the coin. I know those pretty good times had gone ago, when you could find excellent applications fully coded in assembler that fits in just a floppy disk, but I think technology some developers use to develope their applications faster may be the reason of it’s own bloat.

For example I don’t know which language, platform or combination of both uses Symantec, TrendMicro or McAfee to develope their solutions, but remembers me when I started coding I used to programme in Clipper [Summer] '87, wich compiler (specifically database driven) added a lot of libraries without use to the .exe at the point you could have a 200k exe to just clear the screen!!

At this point, I think avast! is a very good crafted applications and you can see that thru every aspect of it, so I think well crafted code is ageless :slight_smile:

by the way, I laughed a lot with your ‘avatar’, it reminds me that old joke 'Press any key to continue… but… WHERE’s the ANY key, huh???

good to know about you ardvark!

BEST!!

thank you very much DukeNukem, I will look forward OpenSuse then to make my first baby-steps in Linux, it may have some security holes like windows but it’s still lot more powerfull and resource friendly; thank you very much! (recently I read an independent article comparing security issues between some Linux distros, Mac OSes and of course Windows OSes showing up that Linux maybe aswell have security issues, but Windows have Big Security Black Holes, lol)

by the way, did you know maybe late this year the whole-new Duke Nukem will hit the streets?


Dear Tech, why do you say PG is buggy? I didn’t have any single incident with it since I purchased it long time ago, from time to time I need to download and test lot of software but at this moment PG made it very well ??? - Please give me some advice on this :slight_smile:

Also, I don’t know the application you mention System Security Monitor, can you pass me the url to it? I’m intrigued about it and want to check it out. And with WinPatrol, I find it use more memory than PG and don’t give you all the advanced features that makes PG such a great app, not to mention the cleaner GUI PG have over WinPatrol - hey, I don’t want to sell anything!!!

One more thing: when posting the first apps list, I forget to recomend to all you avid downloaders and peerers PeerGuardian 2, from PhoenixLabs, this little app it’s worth to give it a try - and it’s free too.

Peace and best regards to you’ll 8)

Wow! Sadly I didn’t knew it at the time I buyed TPF, seems an excellent option, thanks a lot for this one :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

greetz to the King DukeNukem !!!

Hi mat77…

Glad to meet you :slight_smile:

You’re point is well taken. I don’t know anything about the code itself just that most of it nowadays don’t run too well :stuck_out_tongue:

Best Regards…

:slight_smile: Hi all :

 The last firewall I would ever put on my machine is "Tiny" ; and it it fairly
 well known on most antiSPYWARE forums that the quality of Spybot has
 fallen recently . Eric Howes now places it in his 2nd tier category of
 antispyware programs to use .

Greets Spiritsong, how a nice nick you have :smiley:

Why do you think so about Tiny? ZA empire times has gone very away, SygatePRO was cool but it has some bugs that prevent some sites to load correctly -Microsoft Update among them, it also has some incompatibility issues wich may lead to lock the PC at next boot right after installing it like sometimes happens with Kerio, now from Sunbelt. Kaspersky Anti-Hacker is an excellent one but it’s incompatible with avast!, Symantec, McAfee, Trend, Panda or F-Secure are not an options since they’re need lot of resources just to firewall a single workstation. BitDefender 9 may be good but sometimes it happens to leave a port closed, not much, but you know closed means “Aha! Gotcha!”. DukeNukem has kindly told me about Jetico wich I found very good but I haven’t fully tested, preliminary test at GRC.com shows my PC is still broadcasting my domain name so I need to give it a closed-up watch… I didn’t tested well Norman so I can’t really say much but I found the overall GUI something ugly and not very productive.
You talk about Tiny as the worst thing out there, why? I would gladly learn from your experience :slight_smile:
KIS (Kaspersky) and Bitdefender have both them a damn good security packages, much lighter than those made in USA, F-Secure (wich uses the same AV engine of Kaspersky) or Panda, with lot of functionality -registry, internet, antispam, ondemand scan, realtime scan, firewall protection and so on. Still, with all of that, I stood still with the amazing avast!, I love you guys, LOL ;D :smiley: :wink: :slight_smile:

Also, who’s that guy Eric Howes? Excuse me but I do not know him, there’s a lot of gurus out there!!! Spybot may not be the best of it’s breed, ok, but wich app can I use that: 1. block adware sites on the fly, 2. protect registry settings, 3. protect startup from being modified and so on.
I used to run Ad-Aware some time ago but I found it’s resident module a little heavier, of course things can had changed so it’s may be word I give it a new watch, you know how computing is these days, changing at lightspeed.

Then, which appz you recomend to replace Tiny and Spybot? Please post here and please post your personal experience too and system conf. to help others decide what’s better for them !!!

Best regards, take care!

See some firewall tests for comparison, some are freeware but many are paid for versions http://www.firewallleaktester.com/tests.php. Not sure if Tiny is mentioned here as the site is down for maintenance at present.

:slight_smile: Hi Mat77 :

  My thoughts are shared at the following Avast thread :

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=21651.0 .

 My "dislike" for "Tiny" Firewall is adopted by my 1st
 antiSPYWARE "Mentor" Mitch, who's a Senior Member of
 the Alliance of Security Analysis Professionals, the premier
 volunteer group of antiSPYWARE Experts. His site is at :
 http://members.accessbee.com/mitch/NewbieOldieUpdated.html .

I see your point, thanks. And yes, javacool rules.

See you Spiritsong, take care.

hi spiritsongs

thanks for the link in your post :wink:
nice info,but i am quite happy with the set-up with the protection utilities i have now and everything is running 1000%
thanks for your help in the past :o :smiley: