Threatfire????

can someone tell me why since the latest version of the free version of pctools threatfire(never did before) it is being recognized in my hp xp2 laptop home window security center as an anti-virus program-turn off threat and avast will appear in the security center and turn off avast and threatfire will appear-leave both on and it says i have 2 anti-virus programs ::slight_smile: ???
http://www.pctools.com/contact/support/product/threatfire/

No ThreatFire for me anymore. Messed my Firefox installation and messed some program installation/desinstallation, letting a lot of trash (of these programs) behind… Tested my computer without it, works…
But, about your problem, I never even though ThreatFire as being an antivirus, but if this is the case, it explains the conflicts with avast and other programs.

don’t have it on anymore tech…did a complete os and drivers restore on my hp laptop yesterday-like brand new-and left threatfire off since i had that conflict will the security center :-
Only thing i use is
firefox
opera
thunderbird for my pop3 yahoo mail
avast!of course
pctools firewall
windows defender as realtime
new version of spywareblaster-which(wish) ;D it would include opera ???
spyware terminator
ccleaner
winpatrol plus
jkdefrag
and mrublaster
that’s enough :wink:
mostly use my alienware laptop in my signature for games ;D

Dan,

Back when Threatfire was called Cyberhawk (and after PC Tools bought it), it caused Windows Explorer on my computer to crash. A few others had the same problem. Ditched it & never tried it again.

The best product from PC Tools is their firewall. On my laptop I often lose my wireless internet & have to hit repair (restarts my wireless card). I uninstalled PCTfw & downloaded ZA. No more wireless internet problems. ZA is now lighter than it has been in a long while, no more strain on my laptop. :slight_smile:

I’ve turned off Spyware Terminator because I’m using avast! 4.8, it’s an antispyware (Checkmark certified) & antivirus now. :slight_smile: I hope avast! is as good or better that ST & WD.

I prefer the Windows defragger & eprompter for email. MruBlaster is a pain. Video games are a boring waste of time, I have better ways of wasting time. ;D I’m waiting for Defraggler to go final.

I, too, wish SpywareBlaster worked with Opera.

Video games are a boring waste of time, I have better ways of wasting time. ;D
Although not one of my favorite activities, games and game machines are what made the computer so popular. Using your computer to play games is also a users choice. :)
Video games are a boring waste of time, I have better ways of wasting time
to each his own...that's what make the world different-different strokes for different folks :D and only use spyware terminator for a scanner-nothing to do with the anti-virus end of it ::)

http://www.neave.com/games/invaders/ still the old classics games are the best ;D

http://i27.tinypic.com/24qs39t.png

Whatever people use their computers for is their choice. :slight_smile: We’re all free to do what we want as long as it’s legal. I wasn’t criticizing, I said I have my own way of wasting time. ;D None of us should waste time as life is too short. For some, their time is cut short prematurely. :cry:

so i guess i am wasted time answering your above post then ;D
it’s all in fun my forum friend :wink:

I think you shouldn’t turn off your AS. AVAST has got AS capabilities, but i think,IMO, you should to have an specific AS.
If you visit a lot of forums, Kaspersky AV or NOD32 users use too an specific AS. And both AV’s have got AS capabilities a lot of time ago.

Sorry my english :stuck_out_tongue:

Rafel,

Turning off Spyware Terminator is the only way I’m going to find out how good an A-S avast! is. I will run scans with SUPERAntiSpyware free to find anything avast! misses (hopefully nothing).

If not integrated into the antivirus, I’d rather use only on-demand like until now.

i just downloaded the avast v4.8 program and seems to be working fine ;D
starting with v4.8, avast is now officially an antispyware application, too-can someone tell me where it is located or is it included in with the memory and startup and virus scan-all in one ??? ::slight_smile:

I notice some have made reference to Avast 4.8—is this now available?
The website only has Avast Home 4.7.

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=33621.msg280394#msg280394
beta…but if it’s avast!it works fine…does on mine

i just downloaded the avast v4.8 program and seems to be working fine starting with v4.8, avast is now officially an antispyware application, too-can someone tell me where it is located or is it included in with the memory and startup and virus scan-all in one
from my post above-if someone can answer it :D

Sometime ago I read in Evangelists’ Corner Café that the AS & AV were going to use the same scanning engine. I don’t know if it worked out that way.

Ask this question in Beta.

Maybe you are asking where the GUI section of the AS is? There isn’t any, it’s all in one.

Hi folks,

I am not beta testing this at the mo, so ask those that do. Waiting for the avast fw, until that is being brought in I will stay with Comodo fw and Comodo BoClean together with RUBotted that will do for me for now.
More and more every av vendor is moving towards the all-in-ones, just got a message that Comodo is going into Trusted Sites etc. Everybody is doing that. I would not like to put my eggs just all in one basket, I learned my lesson well where Symantec’s over bloated monstrum was concerned. They just do not cover all of the malware theater, too many blind angles,

pol

Ask this question in Beta. Maybe you are asking where the GUI section of the AS is? There isn't any, it's all in on
just did-thanks :) http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=33647.0

I found that there is this misconception that conflicts occur mainly because they are products of the same software class (e.g. between two antiviruses, between two firewalls etc) and that everything is fine if you use security software that you consider functionally different or that “doesn’t overlap”.

The theoretical problem with this idea is that as one becomes more aware of security software differences, and becomes better at distinguishing security software functions, one starts to think one can combine more and more. which makes very little sense if you think about it.

For example if all you had was a vague idea about “HIPS”, you would just use one. Then you read maybe that castlecops page about “different class of security software”, and you start using sandboxes and behavior blockers… Then someone tells you behavior blockers actually comes in 2 types… and you use them both because they are in “different class” and hence there is no overlap and hence no conflict…

The practical problem is this.

My own experience testing is that the possibility of conflicts between security software is very high even if they are supposedly of different types. A firewall can and does easily lead to negative interactions with antiviruses for example despite the fact that one is a firewall and one antivirus.

And by negative interaction I don’t just mean blue screen errors, because these at least are easy to figure out. By that i mean they were fail to stop whatever they normally would if they were run individually.

The problem is even worse with hips-type software like threatfire, online armor, sandboxes etc etc

I have tested the following combos,

Comodo pro firewall 3 + threatfire
Online armor free +Threatfire

A lot of people are running these 2 combos because these are free products and by reading the descriptions you can make a case that they cover different areas. For example threatfire is a “smart behavior blocker” while OA and comodo’s defense+ are “classical hips”.

A simple test finds that running both combos results in a system where neither is able to block certain keylogger techniques. On the other hand, running any one of them alone will give you better results against keyloggers!!

In other words, adding more reduces your defenses! The user will never know since there is no error message, no crash etc.

And this is just one simple test. How many other negative interactions are there that one never notices?

I would add that many people are running even more by adding sandboxes.

Combos like

Comodo pro firewall 3 +Geswall + threatfire + antivirus or
online armor + sandboxie+antivirus etc

are not uncommon, because “they don’t overlap”

Lusher,

I agree.

I use a minimum number of security applications that cover all the bases and “play well with each other”.

If avast! 4.8 turns out to be as good or better than Spyware Terminator, I will remove ST on my laptop & turn off the antispyware module in ZAAS on my desktop, further minimizing my setup.

When the avast! Personal Firewall is ready I will replace ZA on both machines. ;D When the one year “patch Tuesday” free subscription to ZAAS expires I will need to replace it with aPF anyway, hopefully sooner. :wink:

Another point that is often overlooked is this. Many people will tell you they will never use “suites” (or products will the same company). The rational given is that because it is from the same source, chances are they have similar weaknesses so if one fails, the others will fail as well. So people combine “the best of the breed” , AV from one company, firewall from another, sandbox from another etc…

This is not without merit, however, one of the main advantages of using products from the same company is that chances of negative interactions are less (less not none-existent, i can think of counterexamples).

While it is true that many HIPS vendors make an effort to ensure compatibility (because their products are complements), much of this is ad-hoc based on reporting by users.