Thanks, understood - point well taken, lol I use malwarbytes, virus wouldn’t let me update it. it did find first 6, than 4, than 2 and inbetween false neg’s. I’m not as illit as my name probably know more than most my age and even some younger but when it come’s to things I’m unfamilar with experiance has taught me better to leave it to those that are. This time I was extreamly frustrated as I couldn’t even log into Avast forum without Avast giving me warnings and was concerned the longer I stayed connected the higher the risk the virus would spread and open ports, so I didn’t have time to wait for replies. Also it seemed to block all lititamete downloads and I was to nervious to download anything it would allow for fear it wasn’t legitamente. I never would have been able to find it in the registry on my own, let alone delete it for fear I would be deleting a critical process. But I thank U and all the Guys on the forum for being there when we newbee’s need them. Will update my profile, been wanting to do it anyway.