Upgrade From 4.x to Business Protection

I am trying to upgrade from 4.x to Business Protection and the installation errors out with
“SbcServiceInstaller - Unable to install the service” and performs a roll-back.

I am assuming I have to completely uninstall/remove 4.x to install Business Protection?

If that is correct, what is my best method? This is Windows Server 2003. I am VNCing to this computer but could hook a monitor and keyboard if necessary.

Here is a link to my website where the log file is posted http://www.quadaenterprises.com/sbc691.tmp.txt

Thank you,
Brent

Hi,
probably is best to remove all the older products.

Wich version of console are you trying to install?
Is the last version 1.1.132.15?

Are you sure you’ve the rights of administrator? I don’t use VNCing, but however, you must be sure you log as admin.

I’ve tryed to open your log, but I can’t see it correctly, can you post as attachment of this thread?

Giogio,

Trying to install the latest version that I downloaded this morning from the Avast site.

The log is just a simple text file… Notepad or anything should open it. May have to rename it. I tried to post it here but it looked like the size limitations would prevent it posting but I am going to attach it to this post. Also, I renamed it. Well, I tried but the file is too large for what I am allowed to post.

That is what I was thinking I would have to do is hook a keyboard and monitor and completely remove previous products from safe-mode with the Avast un-installer…

Does Avast Business Protection use .NET at all? I have had some updates that would not install and have completely removed all .NET, have reinstalled 3.5 but can’t do any more updates right now as it is a production server and a busy shipping day so I can be restarting it much today.

Hi,
Yes avast console require Net framework 4, you don’t have to reinstall 3.5.

Ok, I’ve open your log, I see that line

System.Data.SqlClient.SqlException (0x80131904): Login failed for user ‘NT AUTHORITY\ANONYMOUS LOGON’.

It appears that you have not entered the access parameters to the SQL properly or avast installation failed on SQL server 2008 R2…

In this server, wich version of SQL have you installed?
What have you choose during the installation of avast console regarding SQL ?

Look at page 17 of this guide
http://files.avast.com/files/documentation/business-protection-plus-administrators-guide.pdf

I will pretty much guarantee that removing 4 prior to installation of BP is the smartest path. Sometimes it makes it, and sometimes it doesn’t. And when it doesn’t, you always wish you did it the right way I have written a blog, on this issue. Email me and I’ll send it to you. avast@advantage77.com

Giogio,
I have not installed any SQL other than when the Avast installer installs. I will get all the updates done this weekend, then remove the current Avast from the machine and then retry the install and report back next week… Thank you!

avast@advantage77.com,
I have emailed you to have you send me your blog. Please send even if you don’t receive my email… Thank you!

When all else fails, discovery and removal of antivirus leftovers!

02-16-2012
By J.R. Guthrie

Antivirus software is the most invasive application we will ever install on our systems. Even when the products are properly removed by “Add/Remove Programs”, pieces of code are ALWAYS left behind, and these leftovers can and do conflict with the current antivirus products installed in your system. This situation has occurred throughout my entire career, and is effected by most antivirus vendors (Symantec, Norton, and McAfee just to tag a few.) These symptoms range from no Internet access, system errors, revolving “boot looping”, and the dreaded Microsoft BSOD (blue screen of death) Windows XP appears to be much more susceptible to trouble when upgrading your antivirus. Where Windows 7 will let avast! 6 install over avast! 4 with almost never an issue (but highly NOT recommended)

Recovery from the A/V process gone awry:

It’s easy to know what antivirus software has been on your computer when you are the guy that loaded it. What about when you inherit system support on computers that you do not know what was installed prior. This is where the discovery and removal process for anti-virus leftovers will save you time and grief in getting systems back to par!

This particular process is specific to avast! 6 upgrading over an avast! 4 or avast! 5 installation, however it also applies to other antivirus vendors as well. I have been through this process, removing avast! 4.8, then removing avast! 6 with the uninstaller, and then having to use the removal tool for other A/V vendors that had previously been installed. If you look in your “Program Files” directory, you can find leftover directories of every antivirus / program that was loaded on the system. Microsoft leaves these directories in case you use the “system restore” function, where you go back in time to when one of these programs was still installed and functional. This prevents a system restore from crashing your system due to missing directories / programs. Once identified, I used those vendors uninstallers, and have had sporadic success. The last resort is: “WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS” procedure at the end of this article. Hopefully you won’t have to go there. Here is a most comprehensive list of uninstallers at SingularLabs. Almost every A/V is here:

http://singularlabs.com/uninstallers/security-software/

This REMOVAL process is specific to avast! 6 upgrading over an avast! 4 or avast! 5 installation (also use when upgrading avast! Free to avast! Pro)

  1.        Remove all avast!  versions as well as any other A/V programs from add/remove programs in control panel.
    
  2.        Download the latest version of avast! Uninstall Utility (aswclear.exe) and save it on your desktop.
    

http://files.avast.com/files/eng/aswclear.exe

  1.        Start Windows in Safe Mode (F8 key before Windows splash screen on a reboot)
    
  2.        Open (execute) the uninstall utility aswclear.exe
    
  3.        Choose which version of avast! to uninstall. This process will be repeated for each avast! version (4, 5, and 6)  So let’s assume we had all 3 versions of avast! installed at some point. So we choose version 4.8 and proceed.
    
  4.        If you installed avast! in a different folder than the default, browse for it. (Note: Be careful! The content of any folder you choose will be deleted!)
    
  5.        Click REMOVE
    
  6.        Restart your computer
    
  7.        Start Windows in Safe Mode again
    
  8.      Open the avast! uninstall utility a second time
    
  9.      Choose version 5 of avast!
    
  10.      If you installed avast! in a different folder than the default, browse for it.
    
  11.      Click REMOVE
    
  12.      Restart your computer
    
  13.      Start Windows in Safe Mode again
    
  14.      Open the uninstall utility again
    
  15.      Choose version 6 of avast!
    
  16.      If you installed avast! in a different folder than the default, browse for it.
    
  17.      Click REMOVE
    
  18.      Restart your computer
    
  19.      Now install avast! version 6.0 Pro
    

The “WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS” procedure to “scrape” all of avast! remnants from a computer system (AKA Pete Scrape) using the avast! example:

  1. Add remove programs, remove avast!, restart.

  2. Go to safe mode, use avast! removal tool, select avast! version #, restart, and repeat for every avast version ever loaded on that system

  3. In Local disk C:, ProgramFiles, delete “avast” and “Alwil” directories if there.

  4. In C:\Windows\temp, remove all.

  5. Start, run, type “%temp%” and remove all.

  6. Do a Windows search on all hard disks for instances of “avast” and “Alwil” and delete all.

  7. Start, run, type “regedit” (Windows key + R). Under Hkey, current user, software, and remove “avast” and “Alwil”, then under Hkey, local machine, software, and remove “avast” and “Alwil” (This is specific to Windows XP)

Use CCleaner to remove the rest of any avast! orphaned registry remnants, and restart.

  1. Install avast! and reboot!

  2. Usually, good luck at this point. And you can substitute other manufacturers products into this script. Remember, registry hacking is always risky, so always have a backup before you proceed. It’s kinda like the acknowledgement checkbox in LSPfix, “I know what I’m doing, or, I like to reinstall my operating system”

J.R. Guthrie

http://advantage77.com/blog/2012/02/16/when-all-else-fails-discovery-and-removal-of-antivirus-leftovers/

“avast! is the best antivirus bar none! We haven’t had a virus spread through an avast! protected network in 8 years!”

I didn’t have to remove 4 to install BP when I did it. Of course, my 4.x database was on another server. I did have to install SQL Express 2008R2 manually because I had to migrate some other databases into it. But after the database service was there, I had few problems installing BP.

Well, ran out of time today to do the uninstall but I DID get ALL .NET installed and updated. So next weekend will be the start in safe-mode, remove all Alwil/AVAST from the server then try to install. I will try to post back next weekend of the following week. Thanks for the tips.

Remember, when installing the SBC management console, disable anti-virus resident protection 1st. It can cause "undesireable results) if running!

Well, nothing went as planned Saturday. Completely uninstalled Avast using the utility, went through the registry and removed all Alwil and Avast entries. Had to remove a couple registry keys for AvastSQL and still no joy. And now, my JOBBoss/Quickbooks integration is failing with an SQL instance failure.

I think the problem is the fact that my JobBoss software installs SQLExpress 2005 and Avast tries to install Express 2008 and for some reason their paths are crossing… Is there a tech support I can contact or call on a Saturday to help me get this installed?

SQL Express 2008 is a requirement for the SBC management console. So, will JobBoss run on SQL Express 2008? Another option is to run the SBC on another system. I run my SBC on a Windows XP SP3 box.

Hmmmm… Guess I thought it had to be on the server… I will try that I guess.

Well, it seems to have installed OK except for the fact that I cannot access the console through the web browser… I have never had this kind of trouble installing/upgrading avast… Always thought it is a great anti virus but now am starting to question the support end of things…

Installed it on Win XP SP3, web server is running but can’t get anything to come up, says internal server error 500.

OK, the web server is working correctly (I can browse the images in the images folder) but the default.aspx will not load and redirects to loadstart.asp.

It is almost always one of these 2 issues, sir!

https://support.avast.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=1004

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=82958.0