Virus Guard powered by BitDefender

[HPY]

Does anyone know whether Virus Guard working as a standalone security product conflicts with Avast?

Season’s Greetings to all!

[SpeedyPC]

I have to say no as it might cause major confliction with Avast, I would prefer to wait for someone to reply your question with a more experience user who fully understand about Virus Guard powered by BitDefender.

And welcome to the Avast HPY

[scythe944]

From the information gathered here: http://www.utorrent.com/documentation/virusguard

It looks like it only works with utorrent connections.

As for “BitDefender’s Internet Security 2010” as referenced by this page:
http://www.bitdefender.com/solutions/internet-security.html

It seems that 2010 is already out of date.

Sounds a lot like a scam to me though. BitDefender is a Microsoft product, no?

Their website is asking for $49.95 for purchase, while BitDefender by Microsoft is free.

Sounds a lot like a Rogue-A/V or someone just out for some easy money.

[HPY]

Reply Scythe 944

“Sounds a lot like a scam to me though. BitDefender is a Microsoft product, no?”

Thanks.

But I doubt that it is a scam, because it is a recommended Add-On app from among the “New Recommeded Apps” of the program uTorrent front-page itself.

Obviously since Avast monitors utorrent with its P2P scanner it may just clutter the system, although the site description says that Virus Guard only activated its scan when a download is completed - therefore making it a potentially uselful backstop?

[system]

@HPY post:4

Obviously since Avast monitors utorrent with its P2P scanner

Slightly off-topic, but I thought Avast! P2P shield does not play nice with Utorrent, that is why it was unchecked by default, so out of curiosity, do you use it without any problems?

[HPY]

“Avast! P2P shield does not play nice with Utorrent, that is why it was unchecked by default”

On my version of P2P it is checked - I am not 100% sure whether I checked it myself, but I am fairly sure it was checked by default and it monitors any download throughout.

[system]

Ok thanks

[system]

@scythe944 post:3

Sounds a lot like a scam to me though. BitDefender is a Microsoft product, no?

Their website is asking for $49.95 for purchase, while BitDefender by Microsoft is free.

BitDefender (http://www.bitdefender.com ) is nothing to do with Microsoft, you are thinking Windows Defender (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/defender/default.mspx ) an entirely different product.

[system]

It’s useless anyway, just a slow scanner that doesn’t block anything, it takes a million years to update definitions and if it finds an infection(and it probably will cause it produces plenty of fp’s) it tells you to buy their suite. I assume we are talking about the uTorrent Virus Guard app right ?

[HPY]

@Darth.Mikey post:9

It’s useless anyway, just a slow scanner that doesn’t block anything, it takes a million years to update definitions and if it finds an infection(and it probably will cause it produces plenty of fp’s) it tells you to buy their suite. I assume we are talking about the uTorrent Virus Guard app right ?

Yes I am. The uTorrent Virus Guard app is advertised by on the uTorrent prog itself. I thought that since uTorrent is so popular it would be a good recommendation.

Thanks for that Darth. It sounds like you write from experience. Anyone agree?

[SpeedyPC]

@HPY post:10

@Darth.Mikey post:9

It’s useless anyway, just a slow scanner that doesn’t block anything, it takes a million years to update definitions and if it finds an infection(and it probably will cause it produces plenty of fp’s) it tells you to buy their suite. I assume we are talking about the uTorrent Virus Guard app right ?

Yes I am. The uTorrent Virus Guard app is advertised by on the uTorrent prog itself. I thought that since uTorrent is so popular it would be a good recommendation.

Thanks for that Darth. It sounds like you write from experience. Anyone agree?

MS Windows Defender is useless as Darth Mikey said it just a slow scanner that doesn’t block anything, it takes a million years to update definitions and if it finds an infection (and it probably will cause it produces plenty of fp’s) it tells you to buy their suite.

IF I’m not mistaken :-X

[HPY]

NO.

This has nothing to do with Windows Defender. Read what Darth Mikey wrote!

We are duscussing the uTorrent Virus Guard app.

[system]

Yes i tried it of course. Like i said, totally useless, the scanner is slow, the update definitions process takes forever and it produces plenty of FP’s. And again, it does not have any cleaning capabilities whatsoever so i really can’t see the logic behind it’s name Virus Guard, implying it’s some sort of a resident shield which it clearly isn’t.

[system]

@scythe944 post:3

From the information gathered here: http://www.utorrent.com/documentation/virusguard

It looks like it only works with utorrent connections.

As for “BitDefender’s Internet Security 2010” as referenced by this page:
http://www.bitdefender.com/solutions/internet-security.html

It seems that 2010 is already out of date.

Sounds a lot like a scam to me though. BitDefender is a Microsoft product, no?

Their website is asking for $49.95 for purchase, while BitDefender by Microsoft is free.

Sounds a lot like a Rogue-A/V or someone just out for some easy money.

No, that is not true, BitDefender has not been acquired by MS. In 2003 MS acquired GeCad(RAV Antivirus) and in 2004 GIANT Company Software(Giant AntiSpyware). Of course MS had an AV of their own back in the Win 3.x days, it was called MSAV and they acquired the av technology from Cetral Point Software(CentralPoint AntiVirus). MSAV was most famous for detecting the Windows 95 upgrade program as a virus. ;D Central Point Software was later bought by Symantec…

[scythe944]

Well, not the first time I’ve gotten something wrong. Certainly won’t be the last.

I guess all that really matters is that we all agree that the program is worthless and should probably be avoided.

Thanks for the heads up everyone.

[HPY]

@Darth.Mikey post:13

Yes i tried it of course. Like i said, totally useless, the scanner is slow, the update definitions process takes forever and it produces plenty of FP’s. And again, it does not have any cleaning capabilities whatsoever so i really can’t see the logic behind it’s name Virus Guard, implying it’s some sort of a resident shield which it clearly isn’t.

Thanks. This is the sort of info I was looking for. Anyone else tried it? - It sounds like a ‘waste of space’.

[HPY]

@Gargamel360 post:5

@HPY post:4

Obviously since Avast monitors utorrent with its P2P scanner

Slightly off-topic, but I thought Avast! P2P shield does not play nice with Utorrent, that is why it was unchecked by default, so out of curiosity, do you use it without any problems?

I renewed my subscription to Avast last November, and did not alter P2P Expert Settings. When I joined Avast a year ago I cannot recall whether all programs listed under Expert Settings were checked by default. Are they?

But in reply to your question I don’t know the answer to that either!
Anyway I would assume that Utorrent would not appear on the Expert Settings list if Avast had thought that it “did not play well”.

[system]

uTorrent is unchecked by default in the P2P shield and i wouldn’t recommend enabling it. More info on that:

@Darth.Mikey post:11

Some more info on the uTorrent issue.

@Vlk

This is by design. Basically, µTorrent scanning in avast is suboptimal and we decided to turn it off by default (this applies to both Normal and High sensitivity levels). To be more specific, if µTorrent scanning is on, and you’re using uTorrent to download large files, ashServ.exe will hog your CPU. This is because uTorrent closes/reopens the target file after transmitting every chunk, forcing avast to keep rescanning it periodically.

@Vlk post:3

That’s right, we have removed uTorrent from the default settings as we’re unable to efficiently cover it and still prevent the CPU usage spikes (that take place when downloading especially large files).

Cheers
Vlk

@Vlk post:11

It really depends on what you’re downloading. uTorrent keeps closing/reopening the files in transit, and on each such occasion, avast rescans them. If the files are huge it can take a long time.

Thanks
Vlk

[HPY]

Thanks Darth.Mikey!

[HPY]

Darth.Mickey

I have just unchecked Utorrent.

Having downloaded and installed it, I tried it out allowing several GBs of audio/video files to be downloaded.
Then I did an Avast scan by right-clicking on Downloads.

The result was about 50 files listed as “could not be scanned” - “error: Archive is pass”…(word protected presumably) Recommendation – Move To Chest.
I have taken no action as it may not be advisable to Move all these dlls, avs, and etc. to Chest if the idea is to watch the films!!

Could this also mean that when P2P for Utorrent is switched on it does not open these Archives – there is no reason to think that it would using the same software as the Download Scan mentioned.

So having it on is useless anyway?

By not Moving them to Chest, could it mean that I am harbouring a load of pass-protected Archives full of nasties?