What's going on with the forum?

szc · 2007-12-18T14:17:40.000Z

SpeedyPC post:43:

My is Page created in 0.08 seconds with 21 queries.

No problems ;D

Yes, and that equals 0.080 which is still a bit slower than 0.067 and 0.068

system · 2007-12-18T14:48:36.000Z

@ DavidR: Sorry to hear about your troubles, this must be really frustrating for you, are you absolutely certain it isn’t some software or some setting causing this ? Have you tried with different browsers ? Strange, the forum has been working flawlessly for me these last few weeks, , maybe i was just lucky …

DavidR · 2007-12-18T14:58:05.000Z

And 227.143 seconds which is considerably slower, that is what the page creation time is for this page right now.

Frustrating hardly covers it, page creation is a local server issue which is totally unrelated to your connection method or distance, so it should be the same for all, go figure >:(

Edit: some more I got whilst commenting in this topic.

system · 2007-12-18T15:04:48.000Z

Frankly, I don’t understand it, because most of the users have quick responses and server is not slow.

The only explanation may be in your numbers? You’ve got much more messages, replies to your messages, notifications, etc. Try to clean up your notifications, pms etc.?

DavidR · 2007-12-18T15:12:24.000Z

I don’t understand it either because the page creation is or should be totally independent of any network or connection method.

But I see this sight frequently over the last 10 days lost of spinning wheels, see image.

Of those with a spinning wheel in the image there was one page creation of 164, 135 and 35 seconds.

So I’m totally baffled but it, I just know it is virtually unworkable.

oldman960 · 2007-12-18T15:35:32.000Z

DavidR, if it’s any consolation, about 6 min ago, it took at least 90 sec. to change pages. Right now I’m on a very high speed connection. (work)

system · 2007-12-18T15:42:28.000Z

oldman post:56:

DavidR, if it’s any consolation, about 6 min ago, it took at least 90 sec. to change pages. Right now I’m on a very high speed connection. (work)

Yep, i can confirm that …

system · 2007-12-18T15:44:44.000Z

Because I did db backup, users cleanup, db cleanup etc… 8)

DavidR · 2007-12-18T17:09:43.000Z

kubecj post:54:

Frankly, I don’t understand it, because most of the users have quick responses and server is not slow.

The only explanation may be in your numbers? You’ve got much more messages, replies to your messages, notifications, etc. Try to clean up your notifications, pms etc.?

I missed the second bit, Whilst I have a huge amount of replies to posts, 547 pages of notifications, etc. So why isn’t this happening to Tech who must surely have even more.

I’m not sure how the notifications works as they are disabled, but obviously in a selection of the new posts in a topic (when I click on the new button it would query the posts that I have replied in), but again this just confuses me even more. In theory that would be the same ‘all’ of the time and not in fits and starts as it currently is with some taking hundredths of a second and others taking hundreds of seconds.

Obviously with 547 pages of notification that is out of the question to manually clean-up them as the page only displays 15 entries at a time wit no way of selecting all only all on that page. I got tired of this after manually deleting 20 pages with only 527 more to go.

Is there any way that you as the Administrator can do a clean-up by date and kill all where the notification is older than three months ?

My PMs is very clear 9 in the inbox (reference PMs) and 9 in the outbox.

system · 2007-12-18T18:08:21.000Z

No additional tools on my side… so 527 * 2 clicks should do! ;D

DavidR · 2007-12-18T19:14:18.000Z

I don’t find it that funny, especially if it is crippling me for contributing in this forum to help others…

So it looks like it isn’t going to get done manually then.

It still doesn’t explain why it would happen intermittently I have had a high number of notifications for a considerable time and so has Tech.

DavidR · 2007-12-19T00:59:12.000Z

What a bloody nightmare I have just completed manually deleting all 527 remaining pages of notifications. What made it worse is you can’t delete the pages in reverse order, having deleted a page it displays the first page, so I couldn’t start from the back and leave say 100 pages, they all had to go.

It took considerably more than just 2 clicks when I started it was 3 clicks and moving the mouse twice for each deletion as the select all box and the unsubscribe weren’t in the same screen area so you have to scroll down or click in the scroll bar margin and then move to the unsubscribe button.

I had an idea reduce the text size so both objects were in the same screen, so down to click move click. Hundreds of pages later I had another idea, try select all and click enter in the hopr that the unsubscribe button was the active button, it was. The next couple of hundred pages of notifications were don in a little over 12 minutes.

What a bloody nightmare, now lets see if all this effort has any effect.

system · 2007-12-19T07:16:08.000Z

All this seems a little strange to me as I’ve not had any problems with the forum in the past 1-1/2 weeks.

Lisandro · 2007-12-19T13:41:49.000Z

DavidR post:59:

I missed the second bit, Whilst I have a huge amount of replies to posts, 547 pages of notifications, etc. So why isn’t this happening to Tech who must surely have even more.

No. I clean my house very often: no inbound/outbound messages stored, no notifications of threads at all, etc.

kubecj post:58:

Because I did db backup, users cleanup, db cleanup etc… 8)

Is there a way to ‘tell’ the user this is going on, like a speed situation of the forum: ‘red’ for forum flooded, lot of work going on, ‘many cars in the street’… ‘yellow’ for the middle situation and ‘green’ for no traffic problems at all?

DavidR · 2007-12-19T13:44:23.000Z

CharleyO post:63:

All this seems a little strange to me as I’ve not had any problems with the forum in the past 1-1/2 weeks.

I guess I must be lucky then, you can have some of my luck, I’m rubbing some of my luck off on your post right now ;D

DavidR · 2007-12-19T13:52:33.000Z

Tech post:64:

DavidR post:59:

I missed the second bit, Whilst I have a huge amount of replies to posts, 547 pages of notifications, etc. So why isn’t this happening to Tech who must surely have even more.

No. I clean my house very often: no inbound/outbound messages stored, no notifications of threads at all, etc.

Well I have notifications turned off by default no emails, but have the “Turn notification on when you post or reply to a topic” option enabled. I can use the “Show new replies to your posts” to sort the wheat from the chaf to quickly deal with replies, I believe that requires the previously mentioned option to be enabled.

If I had to sort through all posts to find those I get contributed to and have had replies it would greatly slow me down.

However I’m going to try something and disable the “Turn notification on when you post or reply to a topic” option as when I clicked the “Show new replies to your posts” link I got a lot of topics in the list, yet from my marathon cleaning session yesterday there were only three topics in the topic notification list.

Lisandro · 2007-12-19T14:13:55.000Z

DavidR post:66:

If I had to sort through all posts to find those I get contributed to and have had replies it would greatly slow me down.

I haven’t even tried to follow this, it’s impossible ;D

DavidR post:66:

However I’m going to try something and disable the “Turn notification on when you post or reply to a topic” option as when I clicked the “Show new replies to your posts” link I got a lot of topics in the list, yet from my marathon cleaning session yesterday there were only three topics in the topic notification list.

I use the ‘unread thread list’ for browsing. I have to open each thread or ‘mark as read’…

DavidR · 2007-12-19T15:06:06.000Z

Tech post:67:

DavidR post:66:

However I’m going to try something and disable the “Turn notification on when you post or reply to a topic” option as when I clicked the “Show new replies to your posts” link I got a lot of topics in the list, yet from my marathon cleaning session yesterday there were only three topics in the topic notification list.

I use the ‘unread thread list’ for browsing. I have to open each thread or ‘mark as read’…

For me the “Show unread posts since last visit” still returns a huge amount of posts, so that is why I first use the “Show new replies to your posts,” this reduces the numbers to a manageable number (for me).

So I use the Show new replies to your posts, which I believed required the notifications enabled) and having that enabled built up the huge total.

However, things are not always what they seem in the forums and that is why I’m trying the option I mentioned that you quoted, disable ‘all’ notifications and still click the “Show new replies to your posts,” link and would you believe it it still works, so I have absolutely no idea what the SMF software uses for a reference as to what topics I have contributed to and be able to list those that have replies ???

system · 2007-12-19T15:10:18.000Z

DavidR post:68:

I’m trying the option I mentioned that you quoted, disable ‘all’ notifications and still click the “Show new replies to your posts,” link and would you believe it it still works, so I have absolutely no idea what the SMF software uses for a reference as to what topics I have contributed to and be able to list those that have replies ???

You mean ‘show all threads, where there are messages by DavidR and there is newer message than DavidR’s’?

DavidR · 2007-12-19T15:26:47.000Z

Yes, if I start or contribute to a topic and there are replies after my post/s as in the link in my User Info details and the top of each page in the Babylon Theme, see image.

Not only that there is also the new button in the list of topics to allow me to go to the latest post that I haven’t seen. I guess that could use a cookie or last active value for that.

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