Why matousec dont test ?

[system]

Why avast! Firewall is not tested by Matousec ?

Im wondering what % they would give ;D

[OmidFarhang]

hey! be patient! they would test it soon

but I don’t think if “they” give a good result to good firewall of avast!, they pay too much attention to “Leak Test” which avast! did not add to their products.
you can see much of the “Suite” products got low % from them because did not pass the leak test.

[system]

As i can say avast! Firewall look very great for a banker and a gamer. Just to compare again Comodo if i play in game its will complety annoy me. Also if im banking. As Comodo Firewall what its good is their HIPS and its really annoying. I wouldnt use their suite for a business. As its would get pretty annoying. :o

Sorry if i offensed Comodo Fan…

[superhacker]

the important thing you cant exploit the fire wall of avast!(or the whole one),so i trust it a lot

[system]

Avast! IS is not going to do well in the matousec firewall challenge. I would be surprised if it scores > 10%. That is not to say its not a good firewall, but that it is not designed for their type of challenges. The avast! firewall is not a HIPS-enabled product, as such, it will not do well on a test designed to assess HIPS functions.

[system]

@Gohoos81 post:5

Avast! IS is not going to do well in the matousec firewall challenge. I would be surprised if it scores > 10%. That is not to say its not a good firewall, but that it is not designed for their type of challenges. The avast! firewall is not a HIPS-enabled product, as such, it will not do well on a test designed to assess HIPS functions.

you know of HIPS-enabled firewalls ??? thanks for sharing

[ChrisThomas]

Have paitence guys! They will test it soon

[system]

@Logos post:6

you know of HIPS-enabled firewalls ??? thanks for sharing

Neil Rubenking over at PCMAG did a review of avast! 5 IS and based on his tests, and information from the ALWIL development team, avast! 5 IS does not employ HIPS in its firewall: Here is a quote from that review and a link to that review: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2358469,00.asp

@Neil Rubenking

I tested the firewall’s ability to detect suspicious activity using a collection of leak-test utilities. These programs demonstrate techniques that actual malware uses to sneak past simple program control—techniques like injecting code into trusted programs, or remotely controlling them. The anti-malware component did block a few of these samples, but all of the rest managed to perform their sneaky tricks without a peep out of the avast! firewall.

My ALWIL contacts explained that since there’s no malicious payload in the leak test programs there’s no reason for avast! to block their behavior. That makes sense. Norton Internet Security 2010 and Panda Internet Security 2010 work in just the same way.

[system]

@ Gohoos81: what I meant is there’s no such things as HIPS-enabled firewall. HIPS is HIPS, firewall is firewall, ans some suites, like Comodo Internet Security, include both. Both components are independent >>> the HIPS won’t interfere with the firewall rules, it’s not not its role, and it just can’t do that. The combination of both on a system make it more secure yes, because on top of the firewall you got the HIPS watching file movements constantly, including those coming from the network. But it (the HIPS) remains completely separate from the firewall, it’s just not the same thing at all. You could run a firewall from a company and a HIPS from another one; they’re security layers, but they’re not mixed, it’s not the same approach at all.

[bob3160]

The avast! firewall is not a HIPS-enabled product, as such, it will not do well on a test designed to assess HIPS functions.

Apples and Oranges. 2 separate items. Either test the firewall or HIPS. As already mentioned, they aren't the same entity.

[system]

Well already avast! has a sandbox also with their anti spam and firewall i can say its really enjoyable. Also network connection you can see what is trusted or no. So HIPS is more an annoyance to my eyes. That why if some 1 is banking or playing its will pop ups and the user might say bad word.

[system]

@Logos post:9

@ Gohoos81: what I meant is there’s no such things as HIPS-enabled firewall. HIPS is HIPS, firewall is firewall, ans some suites, like Comodo Internet Security, include both. Both components are independent >>> the HIPS won’t interfere with the firewall rules, it’s not not its role, and it just can’t do that. The combination of both on a system make it more secure yes, because on top of the firewall you got the HIPS watching file movements constantly, including those coming from the network. But it (the HIPS) remains completely separate from the firewall, it’s just not the same thing at all. You could run a firewall from a company and a HIPS from another one; they’re security layers, but they’re not mixed, it’s not the same approach at all.

Hi Logos,

I agree and disagree. There is considerable overlap between the two. ZA free, which is supposed to be a “pure firewall” product, protects its own files and settings from manipulation. Does protecting the system security programs make it a HIPS-enabled firewall? If not, would it be HIPS-enabled if it also protected the settings of antivirus programs installed on the system? Would you exempt this sort of intrusion protection from the working definition, but not other forms?

Also, the definition of “personal firewall” used broadly throughout the industry for many years encompasses both HIPS and packet-filtering capabilities. You can’t pick and choose which definition of firewall you want to use without being arbitrary. Regardless, the question concerned avast’s test results in matousec’s firewall challenge, not whether the concept of such testing is controversial (I do agree that it is controversial!)