http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-8-will-ship-with-built-in-antivirus-protection/14757
:o
No big surprise… 
It is going to be the same as Windows sodding Defender in win7 that you can’t uninstall only disable. God I hate that in windows 7. There really has to be a way to get rid of this cr*p completely not just disable it.
The article mentions “consumers are going to be happy about this new addition to Windows” not the savvy ones. Certainly not this one.
I hope they are ready for the resultant litigation in the EU at least.
- +1
- Guess the courts will be quite busy again… ;D
One possible downside of including a single antivirus package in with millions of Windows installations is that it could create a security monoculture where the majority of systems are protected by a single application. Attack that one application, and it could be jackpot for the bad guys.Hmmm... I feel like this. Besides, I hate to have an uninstallable program in my computer >:(
I hope MSE in win8 is at least uninstallable… :-\
+1
not there yet out of the box ;D I’m running Win8 dev preview and guess what’s the first app I installed ??? >> MSE ;D … might give a shot to Avast later on.
ps: posting from Win8 btw
ps2: I don’t like it… for now.
ps3: already thinking about ditching it ;D
ps4: for those interested (not you DavidR, stick to XP ;D , great OS!!!)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516
here we go…
I’m interested in it, as I’m not that impressed with win7, I still prefer this XP Pro system. So when I eventually replace this system the next win OS is likely to be on the scene, I want to know what it might bring.
I just don’t want to see it with pre-installed cr*p that can’t be uninstalled.
guys I’m disgusted, back on Windows 7 … I just hate Windows 8 interface, I hate it ;D
I saw the Win 8 presentation. The Antimalware/Antivirus was mentioned and it was said that “the user may stick to that or use any other 3rd party product” (not 100% literally quoted).
So I don’t think it will be uninstallable.
As for the WIN 8 GUI - well, I’m not very fond of it right now, but I guess we all got to get used to the fact that this is the direction things will develop with any major OS.
Logos, maybe you’re just growing too old for new stuff… ;D
That’s the problem when we are talking about what is essentially a resident anti-virus, as we are all aware disabling is often not enough.
@zyndstoff ;D … to be honest I find the Metro UI absolutely ugly. I already found it ugly on videos and during the keynote yesterday, and, well, after using it a couple of hours today, this is just confirmed: it’s ugly.
Oh yeah, last but not least, using the mouse in metro view is just… terribly unpleasant. The tiles are so obviously meant for touch screens, and who’s ready to use a touch screen on a desktop computer… ??? can you imagine constantly stretching your arm back and forth to reach a vertical screen… instead of just moving the mouse on a pad? MS is committing suicide I tell you. There are already many system improvements that I’ve noticed, the system is noticeably faster than Win7 (yeah that’s possible lol), but that won’t justify the switch. A PC is not a tablet.
I agree, Logos, that it is absolutely annoying to use this UI on a desktop…
But I don’t think it’s MS suicide - it’s simply the death verdict for desktop PCs as we used to know them. That’s what I believe.
It will be Slates and Tablets, SoC and ARM, mobile devices in the future.
In 5 years time it will be hard to buy a desktop PC with vertical screen.
exactly, that’s the goal, getting rid of PCs the way we know them.
People will have large screen systems at home for some considerable time and there is no way they are going to want an OS that is based on the touch screen experience. The conventional keyboard and mouse are still going to be required.
So any OS that ignores that in the medium term is going to suffer if the experience is so painful.
Laptops with larger than tablet size screens will also be around for some time too and that requires the use of a keyboard and touchpad/mouse interface.
I have had my win7 netbook since the end of December last year and with a 10.1" 1024x600 resolution screen, if this is what were are all about to be using, its cr*p for anything but short periods of time. So there is still very much a need for larger screens.
Does anyone remember Microsoft’s failed excursion into the large ‘tabletop’ screen experience, that took off like a lead balloon.
just for what it’s worth, some documents got leaked recently, showing how next generation Apple devices will integrate projection, that says it all. You won’t use a vertical screen anymore unless you want to play a game or watch a movie. Common office applications will be run on tablets usually, and if you still want to run them on a vertical screen (actual screen or projected image doesn’t matter), you’ll need something else than a mouse… ;D David I can already control my laptop from my iPod touch, using the touch screen as a touch pad … as to the keyboard used remotely, you’ll have to use the one available on your tablet or your smartphone.
The more I see and hear about Win 8, the less I like it. I can’t see this AV deal becoming a reality though. The antitrust people and the security vendors will probably put a stop to it, as they should. MSE is not a very good AV in the first place and I wouldn’t trust it in what sounds like a stripped down integrated version at all.
Ehhh…maybe…but MS is flying under the radar at the moment. When they first got hit with the anti-trust, there was no foreseeable competition. Now Apple is richer than the U.S. government, and Google is powerful in its own right, both these companies are attracting a lot of attention that used to be squarely on MS.
Either way, I am no fan of Windows “features” that I can not uninstall when I want. I already have a broken WMP that I can’t reinstall as a step to try get it working again.
I don’t know why you’re so upset over the interface.
I now have a smart phone on a desktop. ;D Something I can actually see. 
Something new is usually received with objections. Eventually we all get used to it
and, somewhere down the road most people start saying “I wonder how we ever did with out this.”