I have a question that would be absolutely GREAT if the answer is what I want it to be. But, I’m thinking it’s too good to be true that the answer would be the favorable answer
Okay, so I have on my Desktop the avast! Install Engine Icon. IS this just like any other File whereby I could Drag & Drop it into my CD Creator and burn it into a CD? Could I then afterwards install avast! 4.8 Home from that CD instead of having to download it from the website? I’m talking about like for after I’ve done a Total Windows Reinstall. Cuz I sooooo hate the LONG download via Slow AOL Dial Up … 2 or 2 and a Half Hours, I forget. And as I type this, I’m contemplating having to do a Total Windows Reinstall here soon so that I can fix whatever problem is causing my Windows Media Player 9 to NOT play my Net Radio Station. (Windows Media Player 9 has already been reinstalled to no avail.) But, that’s beside the point.
The point is that it would be great if it WAS possible to install avast! 4.8 Home from the burned CD. That would save me a LOT of time and restlessness. ;D True, I know by the time I would load it from the CD, avast! would very likely be Out of Date. But, then … theoretically, wouldn’t upon the first Log On and / or avast! Automatic Update … avast! would load ALL of the necessary Updates, thus making it completely Up to Date and current?
Or is this a Too Good to be True Fantasy?
Do things NOT work out quite this easily?
I know when Files get burned to a CD, they become READ ONLY. I don’t know if this detail throws my whole idea out the window. Just like when I back up my Opera Bookmarks File opera6.adr, I have to back it up on a Floppy Disk because it has to remain R/W status.
If you save the installation file it is like any other installation file double click and it will install, but I wouldn’t have though it would like being installed from a CD (as that may cause issues with where it will try to install).
So there is no reason to drag it from the CD to the HDD of the system where you want to install it and run it from there.
I’m not sure I understood your last comment. Did you by any chance mean to say — “there is no reason NOT to drag it from the CD to the HDD of the system where you want to install it and run it from there.” ??? Cuz if so, then YES, that’s more like what I had in mind. I probably didn’t go far enough in my Plan’s elaboration. But, yes, I did have more in mind to after a Total Windows Reinstall … I WOULD Copy the avast! Installation Engine Icon / File from the burned CD and onto the Desktop, just like where it is right now. THEN from there it is that I would Double Click and hopefully it would install avast! just as if I had downloaded it from the website. And like I said, I am aware that since the current avast! Install Engine File that I have on my Desktop right now is ohhh, probably a month of two old … the installed avast! from the burned CD would obviously be 1 or 2 months Out of Date. That’s where I say that as per my understanding, theoretically avast! would load ALL the Updates upon my first Log On after the install from the burned CD so as to get itself up to speed to the latest Update. Right?
So, if you’re Green Lighting this Plan, I have a follow up question with Ooooooooo! possibilities. ;D If the avast! Install Engine File can be burned onto a CD like that and then subsequently be copied back onto my Hard Drive / Desktop and Reinstalled from there … does this mean that the same could be done with the Windows Media Player 9 and Adobe Reader Install Engine Files? Or would that be a question more for another Forum that specializes in Windows and such? I guess I now have to go to the Opera Forum and ask if the same thing can be done with Opera … burn it to a CD, that is. Although Opera is not bad at all since the Classic Installer version is only 4.5 MB. It is those other 3 Application that I mentioned that just EAT UP a LOT of Download Time after Total Windows Reinstalls.
I’m not sure I understand it now either ;D but I don’t do green lights, just give options and you decide what best suits you.
Well there really wouldn’t be any need to install it on your system again from a CD if you retain the copy on your desktop. I think that was what I meant.
I see no point in burning it to CD if you are going to retain a copy, if it isn’t your intention to use the copy to install on another system that doesn’t have avast installed.
So if you burn it to CD there is no need to retain the original on your system taking up space.
Installation files can be backed up to CD if you aren’t going to retain the copy on your HDD, but again if the program is on your system there should be no reason to install it again. Unless, like with avast, you had some problem that required you to uninstall reboot and install again, then the back-up of the installation file would be useful up to a point.
Many problems (unlike avast) don’t have a nice incremental update process, so there isn’t a problem with avast if you install a slightly out of date version as the update being incremental it is still better than downloading the complete new version.
Programs like WMP don’t have a nice incremental update as they require that you download the latest version and install over the top or reinstall. So the benefit of backing up the installation file isn’t as useful.
The same is true of Adobe Reader and because it is too big anyway I stopped using that and use Foxit Reader, much smaller http://www.foxitsoftware.com/, I’m a dial-up user too.
Chim, do you have problems burning a CD with avast setup file?
You can do that, you can install avast from it, what I can’t understand is why is this a plan or a fantasy to you?
I think you and David are still NOT understanding why I would want the CD Copy. Let’s see if I can explain again. Say that RIGHT NOW, for whatever reason, I needed to perform a 100% Total Windows Reinstall. Once I do my System Restore with my 3 Gateway System Restore CDs, here is the typical Software I have to reinstall into my computer:
Easy CD Creator … MS Office Suite … AOL … Windows Media Player 9 … Adobe Reader … avast! … Opera … and my Backup Docs / Files / Pics / Etc.
Well, as it stands right now, Windows Media Player 9, Adobe Reader, avast! and Opera HAVE to be Downloaded off the respective websites. I don’t have Install CDs for them. Thus, all those Downloads collectively take a LONG LONG time via my slow AOL Dial Up. Thus, while I can virutally perform Total Windows Reinstalls in my sleep on my computer as I have it down to a science and artform … they are nevertheless a VERY dreaded undertaking because of the shear TIME involved. It practically kills a weekend because of all the Download Time. So, IF I could get those 4 Applications to be on CDs, I would no longer have have to spend HOURS downloading them after Total Windows Reinstalls have been performed on my computer. I would just copy the Install Engine Files to my Desktop and install them from there MUCH more quickly via CDs than with slow downloads. THAT is why it would be a fantasy. Because a Windows Reinstall wouldn’t have to KILL one of my weekends.
Do I make a bit more sense now? If not, don’t worry about it. I don’t want to take up your avast! Assistance Time from others. I’ll just try it out and see what happens.
<< Programs like WMP don’t have a nice incremental update as they require that you download the latest version and install over the top or reinstall. So the benefit of backing up the installation file isn’t as useful.
The same is true of Adobe Reader and because it is too big anyway I stopped using that and use Foxit Reader, much smaller http://www.foxitsoftware.com/, I’m a dial-up user too. >>
Thanks for the Foxit Reader tip, David.
I take it is FREE and works with Windows 98SE.
Does it read / display Adobe PDF Files exactly as one sees them in Adobe Reader? No downsides, restrictions, shortcomings, side effects, compromises? I’ll read up more on it later. Then I’ll download it and take it out for a spin.
Go ahead, do it. Download and burn a CD. Of course, you’ll need to update them, in the computer and, from time to time, burning a new CD.
Do you mean setup files? Installed files, the one into avast folder, can’t be copied&pasted, this method doesn’t work. The setup.exe file can be copied and avast installed from it.
IF I could get those 4 Applications to be on CDs, I would no longer have have to spend HOURS downloading them after Total Windows Reinstalls have been performed on my computer.
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Go ahead, do it. Download and burn a CD. Of course, you’ll need to update them, in the computer and, from time to time, burning a new CD.
Cool! That’s what I wanted to hear.
Yes, I would update them and like when this NEW avast! version that’s coming out in about a month … yeah, I’d then make sure the CD is updated with THAT version.
Quote from: Chim on Today at 10:09:49 PM
I would just copy the Install Engine Files
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Do you mean setup files? Installed files, the one into avast folder, can’t be copied&pasted, this method doesn’t work. The setup.exe file can be copied and avast installed from it.
By “avast! Install Engine,” I mean that Icon on the Desktop that gets put there when you have downloaded avast! from the website. You know … the Icon on which we Double Click and then the avast! Installation Wizard comes up and guides you through the Install process. I GUESS that would be the avast! Setup File of which you speak, right? One & the same? Like right now, I Right Clicked on that Icon on the Desktop and under Properties, it shows - 21.4 MB for File Size … Application for Type … and for MSDOS name, it says - SETUPENG.exe. THAT is the one I want to burn to a CD.
Sounds like a Winner. Sounds like a Plan.
Thanks, Tech … and Thanks, David!
Wooooooooooo! We took the scenic route, but we did end up eventually getting on the same page and arriving at the answer to my inquiry.
And I got the Bonus: Foxit Reader.
By the way, how can break up Quotes from posts so as to address areas of the posts separately? I seem to only be able to quote the entire posts. I can’t seem to be able to intermingle my replies to the different sentences of the posts to which I am replying.
Would I just quote the entire post and just simply intermingle my comments right in there in multiple areas? Or would that neutralize the other Poster’s Quote Box?
I don’t think it’s an icon, but the SETUPENG.exe file itself.
After installed, avast puts an icon on desktop to start avast and not the installation.
This icon could be easily created when you repair your instalation.
Go to Control Panel > Add/Remove programs > avast! antivirus > Remove. Then choose Repair function in the popup window (Repair).
You need to quote and then copy the header of the quoting. Divide in pieces, each one started with the quote header and ended by the with the /quote inside it.
It’s easier & faster to download avast! set up file to your desktop then drag & drop it into a USB flash drive. Then just plug the drive back into your pc after reloading your os, then drag it back to your desktop & execute it to reinstall avast!
It’s also easier & faster to remove & redownload the newest version of avast! to your USB drive. If you have a friend with broadband internet, ask him/her to download the avast! setup file to your USB drive.
And this will happen when I get a Flash Drive. ;D
Yeah, unfortunately I don’t have a Flash Drive right now.
The loosely-based Plan that I’m seeing is that when that NEW avast! version that is in Beta Testing right now and said to be released in about a month gets officially released … I’ll do a Total Windows Reinstall then since it’s needed anyway to fix my WMP 9 problem. THEN I’ll download the NEW version of avast! from scratch from the website. THEN I’ll copy that SETUPENG.exe File to a CD. And I’ll be good to go for the NEXT time that I’d need to install avast! after another Windows Reinstall.
WARNING: I am going to attempt to intermingle my commentary to different areas. This MIGHT work correctly … or it might be a DISASTER of epic proportions. Probably the latter will be true. Here goes:
True … it is NOT the BLUE avast! Icon of which I am talking. But, you have to admit … to a CERTAIN extent, it IS an Icon because there IS a little symbol there of a Computer for the SETUPENG.exe File.
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Whew! This was ROUGH! I have no idea if this is going to come out correctly.
I was seconds away from downloading Foxit when … I just happened to notice that Foxit is only for Windows Me and above. Oh well, I guess I gotta stick with Adobe Reader.
Foxit Reader runs on Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP/2003. It is provided by Foxit Software Company for free non-commercial use. This product is provided AS IS without any explicit or implicit warranty.
Filehippo lists Foxit reader as working on all Windows, if you have a problem with the latest version, filehippo has old versions that will surely work on your system.
Interesting … MajorGeeks has a different version, no doubt older than FileHippo’s 2.3.2933. So, MajorGeeks’ version could very well work with my Windows 98SE. FileHippo’s version 2.3.2933, which they claim works on ALL Windows, is the same version that C/Net download.com says only works on Windows Me and above … and SnapFiles.com says it works on Windows 2000 and above. But, as you said, ultimately at FileHippo I can very likely find an older version that works for me.
Thanks for the Heads Up, rd!
By the way, IF they prompt me if I want to download the Toolbar, like the Foxit website has … SHOULD I download the Toolbar? Or is that something totally unnecessary?
