Mozilla products security threats and new versions

Yeah, I still hope that is the only truth… but, why me ? Why always it has to be me ? I just reported small error with entering text issue in forums like this, and no one seems to have answer on that one… now, I use BBCode extension in Mozilla, and it works good so far, except there is no smilies feature… :-\

It shouldn’t be so big problem for Mozilla guys to fix that little issue. Of cource it’s anoying, especially 'cause I spend so much time typing in this forum… when you use IE for this cause, everything is so smooth, without a single glitch… I would like to see Mozilla do that like IE, because my default browser at the moment is Mozilla… so it would be very helpful if someone comes up with solution for that minor, but very anoying and important problem.

So, what is that telling you guys ? It tells me that it's pointless to argue which browser is better or more secure. We have to fight against hackers and believe in our browser's developers. Biggest problem is 'cause some developers don't want or don't have enough time to cooperate with their users. That's very wrong, 'cause they developed those programs for users in the first place... they need us, just like we need them. They will overcome all those problems sooner or latter... more security issues, more fixes on the way... it's normal, just like Alwil guys have to fight all the time against all those new viruses and treats... it's endless circle, it will be always like that...

Cheers !


Please, It’s not pointless at all. Mozilla is more secure than Internet Explorer. Saying otherwise is ignorant. Obviously browsers are bound to have some security hole but this is the first one mozilla has ever really released - how many has Microsoft had and how many are more to come? Don’t use this as an example to say that Mozilla is insecure because frankly it’s not. Don’t be ignorant.

This is what I wrote:

So, what is that telling you guys ? It tells me that it's pointless to argue which browser is better or more secure. We have to fight against hackers and believe in our browser's developers. Biggest problem is 'cause some developers don't want or don't have enough time to cooperate with their users. That's very wrong, 'cause they developed those programs for users in the first place... they need us, just like we need them. They will overcome all those problems sooner or latter... more security issues, more fixes on the way... it's normal, just like Alwil guys have to fight all the time against all those new viruses and treats... it's endless circle, it will be always like that...

And you said it’s not pointless to argue… I offered peace in here, and you still wanna continue with that verbal fight between IE fans and every-other browser fans. That’s childish.

OK, probably you are one of those agressive ones, who wanna play hard. I am certainly not ignorant, most likely you are… :wink:

First security issue ? Is that making Mozilla any better than IE ? No, it doesn’t. IE is much longer in this field than Mozilla, so that’s why it’s completely understandable and normal that there is much more errors and security holes. No one said IE is perfect, 'cause it’s not, but at least they are working on fixing those problems. There is so many IE/Microsoft haters like (I guess) you are. Probably, just jealous 'cause Microsoft (be real) has monopol… nothing else… but, they worked hard in the past to establish that. Why no one else didn’t come up with those ideas in the past ? That’s why you are defending Mozilla so hard… You’re not real, I am… I use both of them and I can tell the diference… and what’s most important, I see errors in both of them. Telling that one is full of errors, and other one is great and error free, that’s what I call ignorance.

First security hole and you are so happy… common, it makes me laugh… what’s that mean “First” ? Do you think it’s in the same time last security hole in Mozilla ? Yeah right, they fixed it and that puts Mozilla right on the top… untouchable one… I’m tired of this…

EDIT:
Anyway, you have your opinion, I have mine. I’m not gonna argue anymore, 'cause these forums are not meant to be as browser related issues forums. These forums are for Antivirus/avast! issues… So, I don’t wanna waste any space any more with this issue…

First security issue ? Is that making Mozilla any better than IE ? No, it doesn't. IE is much longer in this field than Mozilla, so that's why it's completely understandable and normal that there is much more errors and security holes. No one said IE is perfect, 'cause it's not, but at least they are working on fixing those problems.
No, it really doesn't. Because IE has been in the field longer, it should in theory have less - they've had years to work on their browser. One could argue that people have had years to find security holes, but Mozilla has a netscape background and can be compared to IE. Netscape has less security holes. Mozilla, also, has fixed their security holes. Often it takes microsoft days or weeks to fix their problems after a lot of damage and money has been lost.
There is so many IE/Microsoft haters like (I guess) you are. Probably, just jealous 'cause Microsoft (be real) has monopol... nothing else... but, they worked hard in the past to establish that.
Please, give me a break. Why would I care about the success of a company? I'm 17 years old, do you think it matters, to me, whether or not MS has a monopoly or not?
That's why you are defending Mozilla so hard... You're not real, I am... I use both of them and I can tell the diference... and what's most important, I see errors in both of them. Telling that one is full of errors, and other one is great and error free, that's what I call ignorance.
lol, yes you stop using a product after one security flaw? Better stop using Avast! as it misses some viruses too.
Anyway, you have your opinion, I have mine. I'm not gonna argue anymore, 'cause these forums are not meant to be as browser related issues forums. These forums are for Antivirus/avast! issues... So, I don't wanna waste any space any more with this issue...
Fine by me, I still think you're an idiot though.

You will be ignored after this, and only idiot here is you… especially after your post about rebel flag in Canada… so many people laughed at you, and they PMed me… they don’t even want to reply to your stupid posts you little brat… better go back to school and learn something you haven’t learned yet…

Btw, who ever said anything about abandoning any program just because it has some errors… you are reading something that doesn’t exist… paranoid. :wink:

You will be ignored after this, and only idiot here is you... especially after your post about rebel flag in Canada... so many people laughed at you, and they PMed me.. they don't even want to reply to your stupid posts you little brat... better go back yto school and learn something new...
Yes it is such a laughable post. I am glad I can help bring joy into people's lives. I'm also glad they PMed you about it instead of addressing me. What should I learn in school Craftec? How to communicate with idiots who have horrible English and pull stuff from their ass?

As I said, you are the only idiot in here… My English is maybe bad, but that language is my second language, not my mother language. And you, while you ask, could go back to school and learn how to speak properly your own language, 'cause it’s horror. Let me hear you speak three languages, and then you can say something about my bad English… And also, you could learn some manners, or your precious father could tech you some…I mean, you learned from him how to hate other people… that’s what you said…

…and please stop using “idiot” word… it reminds me of you. :wink:

I firmly ask all involved users:

please stop ALL personal attacks and endless flame wars :wink:

Thanks you for understanding

Pavel

Thanks Pavel,
Very well understood.

This forum is a wonderful and friendly place with no room for petty arguements. Respect is what’s needed.
(don’t they teach that anymore?)
::slight_smile:
-max

Tell me about that… I posted in here more than 1300 posts and I never saw anyone calls anybody an Idiot… thats’ just unbelievable.

Staind

How to communicate with idiots who have horrible English and pull stuff from their ass?
I intended not to get involved in your petty attacks on one of our senior members so I'll handle this as an outsider just visiting this forum and looking at only this one thread. I can't understand how some one who has had more than 1350 posts (not counting private e-mail help replies) and some one who speak 3 languages can ever be thought of as an idiot. Judging People by the quality of their posts, I can only attribute S.Z.Craftec as an extremely intelligent person who cares about his fellow human being. Your posts on the other hand, have usually been nothing more than snippets trying to entice a fight. If it's a fight that your looking for, you've come to the wrong place. You might however find that you'll no longer have any one to fight with on these forums. Remember, talking to yourself can become very very loney. Peace and grow up to become a fine caring young man.

I am sorry S.Z. but I am speechless. I am Infuriated and shouldn’t speak out right now. I would suggest that the moderators of this forum consider banning “Staind”

We don’t want and dont need what he brings.

I will address a few issues:

I always liked the looks of the Confederate flag, also I've seen a few flown here in Canada. My dad and I always wanted to get one.
Hm. I do not know where that says I hate people, or that I'm racist? Maybe I should clarify this, since I didn't want too before - since it is a bit personal. The main reason for getting a confederate flag would be to honour and remember 3 of my ancestors who died fighting for what they believed in. Not for the values the flag itself represented, but their memories who died for what they believed and what they did was right - protecting their way of life and what they felt was valuable to them. Sorry if this offended anyone. Secondly, please do not mention my father. He has never posted here, and you have no idea how he has impacted my life in any manner.
Your posts on the other hand, have usually been nothing more than snippets trying to entice a fight. If it's a fight that your looking for, you've come to the wrong place. You might however find that you'll no longer have any one to fight with on these forums. Remember, talking to yourself can become very very loney.
You definitely make good points, and I respect your opinion. But I never entice a fight in the sense of what you mean (or maybe I misunderstand you). I do debate, and argue but never want to personally fight. The only thing I cannot stand is stubborn people (I have to admit I am stubborn myself, which is probably the reason for this) and hence get frustrated after awhile. Most people would respond to this and just say - then give up who cares? But, it's another flaw in my personality that I can't give things up until they come to closure.
Remember, talking to yourself can become very very loney.
There are worse fates.
Peace and grow up to become a fine caring young man.
That is the plan.

Well may you enjoy your fate. I for one will not respond to any more of your threads, and call on the other regulars to ignore you as well, refererencing this thread as reason enough. Calling people names is childish and immature, I am sure you will have something nasty to say about me as well but I will simply ignore it and you. Sitting behind your computer calling people names is cowardly.

As far the confederate flag goes, a war was fought over it, the civil war. People that stood behind that flag, stood for states rights and slavery. In this day and age it is a symbol that primarly represents hatred and intolerance for minorities. The KKK has adopted it as their flag of choice.

Stained

But I never entice a fight in the sense of what you mean (or maybe I misunderstand you).
There are many ways of fighting and, verbal can sometimes be more abusive then a fist fight. The words you use (or choose) can cause as much pain as if you used your fists. The scars that you create with these verbal abuses last much longer than any physical scars. Also remember that it only takes one insult or an unkind word to leave a long term impression about the kind of person you are. So my young friend, choose your words wisely not hastily. Angry words, spoken in haste, have ended many a relationship. Mine is still in tact after 45 years. I hope one of these days you can say the same. (Remember, a friendship is also a relationship.) I wish you Peace, long life and happiness. Bob

P.S.
A personal quote:
“One friend is a gift from God. Many friends is almost like being in Heaven.”
If you can remember that and live by it, you will be a very rich person indeed.

I beg to differ on this point.
The average Confederate soldier wasn’t a slave owner and not everyone who fought with the north was against slavery.
As a Virginian,many of my ancestors fought in the “War of Northern Aggression” :wink: none of which ever owned a single slave.
I will agree that the Confederate Flag offends many people and I understand why completely.

The Firefox 0.9.2 is still in beta, available on the nightly builds and not available on the usual downloads page. The same is true of TB 0.7.2.

Whilst there shouldn’t be any problems, people should be aware that it is beta and could cause problems. It may be better to await its release on the downloads page.

DavidR
Remember that this version was issued to patch a security hole. Without the patch, the browser is vulnerable to attack.
Which puts the user between a rock and a hardplace.
:cry:

I’m totally aware of that, loading beta software can cause potentially more harm.

The Firefox site ‘Nightly Builds’ does also warn about beta builds and they haven’t put that build on the regular downloads page. So I’m also following their advice.