Safezone Browser makes Avast MALEWARE.

When Avast started bundeling their bloatware and addware in a preticked way during installs, I was dissapointed.
When Avast started bundeling their bloatware and addware in a preticked way during updates, I was pissed off.

But when you guys started installing software UNASKED and without notification…well that is just a step too far. I honstly hope that you, and every company who does shit like that goes Bankrupt.

I will find myself an other antivirus software. You guys are a disgrace.

Yours sincerely,
a pissed of user.

There is no adware in the avast software.
If you believe otherwise, you don’t know what adware is.

By installing avast you agreed to the EULA.
avast doesn’t have to ask or give a notification upfront.
Sure, it would be nice if they did but they don’t have to.

I am not an expert in this field, nor a law expert. I do not know the techinical definition of this, and frankly I am too lazy to even look it up. I am a simple user. But I, and I believe a great deal of people, have a rough idea of what adware is.
And this softawre is for me, exactly that. I dont need it. I dont want it. I was not asked for permission. I was not notified. That for me is enough. You can write all you want, but even you know that I am right.

As for the EULA… well I have not read the EULA (who does it seriously with every software they install) but just to say a few things:

  1. even if you have the legal right, that does not make it the moral right and just fyi (moral>> legal)

  2. I do not know the law, but I do expect that even in the EULA you can not make everything you want legal. There are still consumer rights, such as the act of good faith etc, which do state that a product has to be fit for service, for example. An antivirus software that is itself installing, what I would group under adware, does at least for me, not fir its purpose.

  3. and even if you are techinically right on your points, I dont even care. I very much have the right to state that this is BS and dislike it.

  4. Now on this I am not 100% sure, I dont have any proof. But I do suspect that for example the price checker uses your search information to sell it to sites such as amazon etc. As, even if it does say so in the EULA, it contradicts its own advertisement of data protection.

Frankly I dont even know why I am arguing here.

I have been using Avast for almost 10 years now and I love it.
Never had any problems with it and so far it has been pretty good keeping the nasty stuff off my computer.
In other words a perfect fit for my needs and a brand I could and had wholeheartedly recommended it to anyone.

But what happened today (yesterday) is a stain on the company image and relationship with its users.

Yes their ass is covered from a legal point of view, and to be sure I will not stop using Avast, but…
The magic is gone, the honeymoon is over… all there is left is a weird aftertaste and a violated trust.

I am not an expert in this field, nor a law expert. .... know that I am right.
No, you are wrong. The majority has no clue on what adware is. There was/is no need to ask for your permission. You already gave it when installing avast.

e.g.
A car manufacturer mentions in the manual not to hit a tree.
You start driving and hit a tree.
Don’t blame the car manufacturer for the damage. :wink:

1]
I agree. They are two different things although they are “related”

2]
I do know (as they say) a thing or two about the law(s).
I had too when I had my own service company.
The EULA that avast has is fully legal.
Except for asking avast to change it (or change the law), there is nothing you can do about it if it has something it that you don’t like.

3]
See 2

4]
avast is not selling (or giving away) any of your personal data to the companies that SafePrice is using.
It is basically the same as those websites that compare prices.
Only difference is, it is not a website but a add-on/plug-in.
Yes it uses your search queries (just as the websites do).
A salesman can’t help you if you don’t tell what it is that you are looking :wink:

P.s. I found this nice article
http://www.howtogeek.com/199829/avast-antivirus-was-spying-on-you-with-adware-until-this-week/

Seems like I was right and the safebrowse thingi was indeed collecting information.

No you are wrong.
The article is about SafePrice, not about the SafeZone Browser.
Those are two different things.

Besides that, the author of that article is wrong also about many things.
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=157693.msg1140066#msg1140066