I have just recently made an account on this forum so I am new in here but I have another antivirus a small satandalone one by the name of KingsoftAntivirus. My suggestions is for now that when Antivirus finds a suspecious program or a virus and moves it to its qurantine area or virus chest, going back and just simply clicking the deleting button only deletes that program which is now a very old, ineffective and outdated method but what I am asking is adding an algorithm of secure delete with an option of from 3 to 35 number of overwrites so that the program or file is permenantly removed or vanished from the hardrive. With this algorithm, I think, it will give some real space on the hardrive and since the program is permentantly removed, the harddrive won’t load it at startup because its permenantly removed. So, I suggest you add this algorithm in your next update By the way I have AVAST INTERNET SECURITY ANTIVIRUS TRIAL but this means for all of the antivirus versions of avast
hi Questioneer2012toAvast,
I had to read this two times to get the gist of what you were stating/asking for. I think you are asking for a secure delete function within avast! similar to a wiping program used within recycle bin or other folders, is that right?
http://eraser.heidi.ie/ No recommendation is made for use of this program here. It is meant to be an example of the sort of program you may be talking about.
Deletion of a file within avast! will mean it is gone permanently, just so you know. So, if one makes the mistake of deleting a necessary and needed Windows System File, you are out of luck in getting it back. Deleting notepad, a Windows System File, even if infected, will mean you cannot make notepad run no matter what you try to do to get it to do so. It is gone forever, if avast! deletes it and you told it to do so.
http://eraser.heidi.ie/ No recommendation is made for use of this program here. It is meant to be an example of the sort of program you may be talking about.CCleaner also have secure delete...you can sett it to overwrite a million times.....almost ;D
Yes I did mean about secure delete from virus chest, but you also have add to trust list, restore and submit false positive, what if someone accedently hit any of those, wouldn’t that solve the problem?
Well, as the quarantine area is secure already, anything that winds up in there cannot get out and affect the rest of your system. Virtual deletion is what this is, but putting a file in there allows for the possibility of restoring said file if it later turns out to be clean.
So there really is no need for a secure deletion function within the virus chest as only avast! can see the quarantined file while it is in there. Any system scan/search will never find a quarantined file.
but I need one for myself. What’s the point of delete button in the virus chest when some suspecious program or file is found and it actually deletes something when you click the delete button and it’s not even secure delete with custom number of overwrites to get rid of all junks in it? Why not put buttons like restore, leave it alone and don’t quarantine anything. Hell, why’s there even a virus chest in the first place, why is it that some people use their father’s office computers or laptop and install avast antivirus on them for no reason at all when they aren’t even mature to use the computer in the first place. Why put their father’s working computer in risk, why do they think that they are mature and advanced users when they haven’t even finish their milk. Hah! Why? answer me son!
If, as you say, someone else put avast! on your system, and that someone is a child of yours, then this really is not an issue about avast!. Restricting the use of the computer only to an user-limited account for such and making yourself the administrator would avoid this scenario. Password protection of the administrator account will prevent administrative access now and in the future for non-administrative users. If running XP, password protect the Administrator in Safe Mode as well. avast!, even the free version, has the ability to password-protect various aspects of it, including password restricted access to the virus chest. So, if a file is put into quarantine, the only way to access the virus chest is to enter the password. Accidental deletion of a needed file cannot happen unless another user knows the password.
In a limited-user account, you cannot install new programs. Restrict the rights of others who do not own or maintain your computer. If this is your real issue, this alone should take care of it for you.
Listen, why are you even talking to me? This message for the administrators only. Secure delete with custom number of overwrites is very important now these days and is a must for any antivirus software like avast. So, troll somewhere else.
Hi Questioneer2012toAvast,
Us avast! Evangelist are verified helpers of the avast! forums. avast! Evangelist mchain was not trolling; he was trying to help you.
Regards,
~!Donovan
I understand but his logic and reasoning doesn’t help a bit. All I am requesting for the Avast developers is to add secure delete method with custom number of overwrites in the virus chest of avast antivirus instead of normal delete that’s it. Cause having a secure delete adds more reputation to the Avast Antivitrus. As far as false positive goes or if some important windows files gets qurantined by avast antivirus and then later turns out to be false positive, then there’s already options availabe within the virus chest along with the delete button like resotre, add to trust list and submit false positive to the website and etc and the important windows files will be put back to where they were and everyone knows that and they can choose options beside delete and avast won’t delete such files by itself without the users permission. I know because users know that much. I have another antivirus by the name of Kingsoft Antivirus 2012 and it’s a permenant free standalon antivirus which can be used as a subsidary with the primary antiviruses like AVAST, AVG, KASPERSEKY and bitdefender. I have also requested the same secure delete for the Kingsoft antivirus with custom number of overwrites and all of the users agreed to that. So, I don’t know what’s the problem here.
All I am requesting for the Avast developers is to add secure delete method with custom number of overwrites in the virus chest of avast antivirus instead of normal delete that's it.do you know of any AV that have this?
since the avast guys have worked with malware 24/7 for over 20 years i guess they would have implemented this if there was a need for it?
There is no problem here, at all.
Once an infected file is in the virus chest, it can remain there permanently or until the user “right clicks” on the file to re-scan.
If you want to “wipe” it clean, if the file is still infected, click “delete”. Then use CCleaner to wipe “free disk space”.
I think that perhaps you are making something very simple, complicated. ???
Nope! don’t wanna burden myself using CCleaner for this{:P. I need secure delete in avast virus chest thats it simple, and you’re making it complicated. At first, you have to open the virus chest and for that you have to open the avast window and then make your way to virus chest, then you open virus chest, then you rightclick on the infected file, then you have to select delete, then you have to wait for it for the file to be “Transferred” are you following me “Transferred” to the recyclebin for no reason at all whereas with secure delete with custom number of overwrites you don’t have to, cause it’s simply gone . Sure, secure delete takes some time but it’s worth waiting. But with simple delete, when the file has been transferred to the recycle bin, you then have to close the virus chest and to do that you hover your mouse to the close button and click on it. When that’s done, you then have to close the Avast window and for that you have to hover your mouse to the close button to close the avast window. When Avast is closed. You then have to make your way to CCleaner icon then right click on it and then you have to select open. After opening it, you have to hover your mouse on the analyze button, the analyzing takes about 15-20 minutes, after the analyzing is done, you then have to hover your mouse to the clean button and then left click on it, and once the cleaning has been started you again have to wait for about 25-30 minutes. Now do you see how hard it is >:(
Avasts delete doesn’t transfer to the recycle bin the file is deleted, but it doesn’t do numerous writes over the actual data.
Darn you are fast David, I was just about to say that ;D
And I sneaked in the images after the post ;D
I don’t think the OP knows how to simplify procedures. The only thing that takes time is using CCleaner to wipe the free space. But you get a solid “wipe”.
I do that when I know I won’t be using my laptop for a period of time. The “wiping” could be done when the user is running errands
or when they are taking a nap or when they are watching TV. Any time spent away from the computer could be used for “wiping the free space”.
There is no need to “hover” the mouse at all.
The OP just wants to make things complicated.
Simple motto: “Keep It Simple”. 8)
(OP) Nope! don’t wanna burden myself using CCleaner for this.
(Me) What burden?
(OP) Sure, secure delete takes some time but it’s worth waiting.
(Me) It’s going to take time either way!
(OP) Then you rightclick on the infected file, then you have to select delete, then you have to wait for it for the file to be “Transferred”.
(Me) Wrong, the file is never transferred to the recycle bin. It is deleted.
(OP) When Avast is closed. You then have to make your way to CCleaner icon then right click on it and then you have to select open. After opening it, you have to hover your mouse on the analyze button, the analyzing takes about 15-20 minutes, after the analyzing is done.
(Me) Double click on CCleaner. I have never seen CCleaner take 15-20 minutes to analyze.
(OP) Now do you see how hard it is?
(Me) Nope! I see how simple it is! 8)
And it’s useless. That delete isn’t even a delete and the data is still virtually there and to remove it permenantly there has to be a secure delete with custom number of overwrites that’s why my suggestion stands firm and that is the Avast antivirus including all versions should have a secure delete with custom number of overwrites in the virus chest period
and that delete is not even a delete instead the data is virtually still there and to deal with that Avast much have a secure delete with custom number of overwirtes so that the data is permenantly gone period