Why did my CCleaner free version 2.34.xxx, auto update?

Hi

I’m just check my pc and see that my ccleaner has automatically updated to version 5.41.6446 from my older version 4.03.xxx too just like other.

The only difference is I’m using AVG not Avast.

As I know Avast has already acquired AVG too so I’m assuming ccleaner automatically update happen to user that using AVG and Avast antivirus

NB:
AVAST has included a “CCleaner.updater.exe” to CCleaner.
I stopped it? by blocking it in my COMODO firewall.
Seems to work O.K. now, as it hasn’t updated to version 5.41.xx or whatever.

So… Check your Program folder for CCleaner.updater.exe or similar.
If it’s there, & it will be, block it in your firewall.
I don’t trust AVAST to “re-install it” if you just “re-name” the updater.

I would have thought that if the updater is a separate file the more obvious solution is simply to delete it permanently. I’ve done that with other programs which arrogantly autorun their updater with no way to disable it otherwise.

However if you delete it in some of those cases they regenerate the updater every time you use the program. That’s why I suggest trying disabling rather than deleting it first. Something else I’ve also thought about is replacing it with a dummy file of the same name but quite frankly if a program is causing me that much annoyance I uninstall it.

Check also in CCleaner’s own Tools > Startup menu option that it has not been added under Scheduled Tasks. There should be a “CCleanerSkipUAC” there so you don’t get the UAC (User Account Control) dialogue box every time you launch CCleaner but if there is a CCleaner updater task try either disabling or deleting it.

Hi guys,
let me please answer some questions here. Outdated software is quite hard to maintain - in Avast, we still support Avast Antivirus product for XP despite the fact that only 5% of our costumers still use XP. Web servers (for updates, communication, …) must still support old methods which were used in this product many many years ago. We have still some users on Avast v8 and we cannot 100% guarantee they are safe for the latest threats, because Avast v8 doesn’t contain some new shields or technologies available on newer OSes.

We have decided to upgrade all outdated CCleaner versions (v1.xx - v5.20) to the latest version. Portable versions were excluded. The reason is that old CCleaner version may not work as expected for for the latest software (your CCleaner is old, but users expect it will work perfectly also for e.g. latest Chrome which is updated every 6 weeks), maintenance of the latest version is much more easier for both developers and support and also from possible security issues.

I would be glad if you try the latest version and report any feedback so we can work together to improve CCleaner product for all our users. Thanks!

Petr

I don’t allow CCleaner to run on computer start and I don’t allow it to inform me of updates. I have had these settings right from the start of my use of CCleaner many years ago, see attached. Whilst CCleaner is in the list of monitored software, it may notify me, but it has never autonomously updated CCleaner, only if I instructed it to do so. That said, I have never let CCleaner get so out of date that it may get updated automatically.

I periodically check to see if there are any updates and I also monitor the Avast Forum / General - >> UPDATES << topic. That is pretty good for a reminder of many programs I have installed rather than allow autonomous updates by programs.

By the same reasoning the problem is that some us of want to and indeed need to use older software that is not being updated, older Windows and ESR browser versions come to mind.

Because of that isn’t there the potential that a new version of CCleaner may not work as it is supposed to for the same sort of reasons? Fewer people might now be using Windows XP as their primary OS but I’d bet plenty have it and other Windows OS running dual boot or on virtual machines along with older programs/hardware that only work or work best when using ‘outdated’ software. Such systems are actually kept working and more secure by not allowing changes, particularly updates.

They might even have their computer system deep frozen so it returns to that fixed state on every boot. That was one solution recommended when support for Windows XP ended.

The point is why force updates on people who do not want them whether their objections are valid or not? If using an older version of CCleaner causes issues its their problem to sort out.

Avast should not be forcing anyone to update anythng on their own computer, their computer their choice, period. If Avast wants people to know an update is availabe simply have box pop up indicataing this and let them decide. This is exactly why Avast"s reputation has been trending downward for some time now.

Agree very much.

Checking for updates and informing us of such I can live with, especially if even that option has an opt out. That is what CCleaner has done for the 8 years I’ve been using it. With the exception of the few times where a new CCleaner update caused those opt out user settings to be ignored (quickly fixed in later updates) I’ve had almost nothing to complain about.

CCleaner has always just done what it is supposed to do, does not nag you to update if you do not want it too and older versions, used for whatever reason, simply do not cause problems anyway. The OP’s long term use of version 2.3xxx, apparently without issue, is more good evidence of that.

Forcing updates on users is a detestable practice and after last year’s debacle with the trojan infected official 32 bit installer you would have thought AVAST might have learned something. Apparently not.

@ pk…
You wrote…

let me please answer some questions here. Outdated software is quite hard to maintain...

We have decided to upgrade all outdated CCleaner versions (v1.xx - v5.20) to the latest version.

What gives you or anyone else, the right to automatically update any program I choose to run on MY M/C?
Old or not & without any kind of notification (or option to not have it updated) of doing so?

&…The most important aspect of this intrusion is this…

“They” actually silently, stealthily & sneakily installed an .exe file onto our M/C’s with no prior knowledge or notification of any kind.
Talk about watching out for malware & viri invading our M/C’s.

You are just an AV program for C$^&$@*'s sake!

Just NOT on, chum.

&…Why the reference to Google’s Chrome browser?
I wouldn’t touch it if you paid me.

@ Cluster-Lizard2014,

Many thanks for your support re; …

The point is, why force updates on people who do not want them whether their objections are valid or not? If using an [b]older version of CCleaner causes issues its their problem to sort out.[/b]

@ digmor crusher,

Avast should not be forcing anyone to update anythng on their own computer, [b]their computer their choice, period.[/b]

Just to keep you all “updated”… (Sorry, but I could not resist.)
I am now running my old faithful CCleaner v2.34.xxxx & it’s performing perfectly.
In all the years that I’ve been using it, I have never had any reason to hit that
“Check for updates” button at the lower RHS.
(Luckily, I keep the old .exe’s around…JIC.)

To the AVAST Team…
Just keep your sticky fingers out of my/our M/C’s.
Thank you.

I have never had any kind of “nasty” on my M/C since I started in 2003/4.

AVAST…Just go back to being a good AV program, like you used to be & leave our computers to us.

(I’m not going to start on how slooow the new AVAST program is to open. All that un-needed bloatware.)
&…What’s with the “Web Cam Shield” & “Driver Updater”?
A small piece of black insulation tape will stop the camera dead or simply, turn it off.
For goodness sake, you’re an anti-virus program…What else have you got in store for us lowly users?

Thanks muchly.

Regs, Mike…

ps. To all concerned…
If you re-name or simply delete the CCleaner updater, AVAST may just recreate the file & keep on updating it against your wishes.
Best to block it in your firewall. That will stop it cold.
Good luck. :slight_smile:

Since you said Avast is the one updating ccleaner older version to the latest. then i assume its safe to say that AVG did the same right?
i found this thread while searching on google about this problem, tried to ask to avg support but no respond or confirmation from them :frowning:

Hi Petr,

if Avast will decide at some time to update/renew or whatever you want on my computer without asking me:
That will by my last contact with Avast.

Nobody changes objects on my computers without my knowledge, only exception is preventing me from viruses and other malware.

Petr - you/your company can lose your credit only once …

Thanks for coming ‘clean’ with that!

But I must wish Avast the best of luck with that approach to forced updating of software on a user’s computer.

Once this draconian mindset gets tweeted about a few times, it will be the beginning of the end for Avast…

Is it really better to do nothing and allow the product to not do a poor or worse, a harmful job on that old computer only because the user hasn’t updated the product ???

Well it’s not a matter of better or worse to do nothing. It’s a matter of leaving the choice to the individual regarding assumption of risk. ANYTHING that automatically installs software by stealth methods should be untrusted, same as malware. All the software developer needs to be responsible for is notifying the user that their software is out of date, and offering to correct it. Or even disabling the license if the update is not made. But forcing an update into a user’s computer is just immoral.

By analogy, implementing helmet laws for civilian automobile passengers would obviously save lives lost to head injuries. That would be better than allowing people to die in crashes. But I doubt that nanny rules like that would ever get through legislation in a democracy.

You’re already required to wear seat belts. Not that this has anything to do with the safety and security of your computer.
This doesn’t affect me since I always update all of the software on my computer once I know there’s a new version available. :slight_smile:

Always Update every single piece of software once I see a notice that a new update is available, have done that for years even when I did run Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7 and 8.0 and 8.1 and Finally Windows 10

Avast staff is just trying to keep folks safe, protected, and have the software in that can handle the newest browsers, and Operating system aspects, older versions of CCleaner wouldn’t know what to do with updated Chrome browser, Firefox, or other programs

But people choices i guess what they wanna run on there computers, but if everyone practiced safe hex/keeping software up to date, we’d probably have less malware infections around the world

I think that moment passed some time ago, when it has turned into this bloated abomination of a wannabe OS.
Man, i wish i could go back to 4.8, those were the good times, when an AV was an AV and nothing else…
And Petr, you don’t need all the shields to be safe, hell, i have only the File and Web ones installed, the rest are for those that can’t think and need to be protected from themselves.

Times change protection needs change. Your computer, your choice. At least Avast offer you one.

That’s nonsense, sorry. I use al lot of old software. Examples - MS Office 2007, Lightroom 6, PS Elements and many more. They are of course outdated, but they do their job. They are paid, and I don’t want to pay a newer version, as I do not need their functions.
I also use freeware and old database programs.

It’s my choice. Not Avast’s choice >:(

None of these make changes to your system or delete items from your system.
You can’t compare apples to oranges. :slight_smile: