It’s true that users will have less control on the given web sites with Html5 but, isn’t this a feature of WebKit, which is the open source part of Safari and/or Chrome rather than being exclusively to Google Chrome? Also Ogg Vorbis/Theora formats are known to be less restrictive in terms of IP… I don’t deny the existence of browser/search engine war but how logical is it to see everything under such context? ???
OK users will lose some control only because the web site owners will have more control over their content with HTML5…I have no problem with that…better than the current 99% monopoly of adobe flash player on the Internet ;D … this said any new major internet feature is a new occasion to stimulate the browser’s war, that’s always expected.
Hi Logos,
Here is a description of an extension and a greasemonkeyscript to bring HTML5 to Firefox:
http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2009/11/bringing-theora-to-youtube-the-hard-way/
Raedy for you YouTube Theora transcode and it works like this: it pulls down the video, uses Firefogg to transcode it, and then stuffs it back into the browser via a private URL. It’s slow because it has to pull + encode the entire video, but it works surprisingly well for something that is as hacky as it is,
polonus
Hi Polonus, thanks for the info 
Hi Logos,
If you knew Polonus, you would know that he would not rest until he found a nice solution to convert the GoogleChrome YouTube HTML5 video format to be played on my VLC Media player as a downloaded flv file. None of the proposed services could do it, but one. I went to http://www.mediaconverter.org/
The process takes some time but one could open another tab and do something else in the mean time.
It is easy give in the video link, choose the format to convert to and then when it shows download download an play with VLC. Normally a video download of a 6 minutes video takes 6 MB, here the download is 27 MB for a converted file. Somewhere there has to be done something with compression.
If you are on broadband, could be done, real easy. As for other countries I do not know but the EULA is for the U.K. where use of the services are legit, allthough I fear that it is not for DavidR with his dial-up connection,
polonus
congrats, good find … gotta be careful with this sort of things now in France, heard of HADOPI ? ;D
Hi Logos,
Of course one should always download legitimatly In the Netherlands we also have entered this debate
and the government will come with a proposal in the coming three years to prohibit downloading from evident illegal sources, also make rules for commercial parties not to make money from illegal activities - but only copyrighted work can be protected in this way and how “old media” should be transformed to “new media” ways has not yet materialized. The download restrictions are meant here for commercial parties and are not meant to harass the individual user, well that is the Dutch point of view as it was presented,
polonus
and that’s exactly the issue we have in France with the new laws, they’re more meant at harassing individuals then to protect the authors…
Some new additions from todays snowfall:
http://www.youtube.com/bob3160
@ Logos and Polonus
Doesn’t this work?
Download and save videos directly from Youtube, Google, Metacafe, Putfile and more. Simply copy and paste.
I had have tried that in the past before I realized there was something better^^
Keepvid does the job done but not exactly as said…sometimes it doesnt download, no download links appear…
@Topic
Is HTML5 video player the new player Youtube has?
The new look?
Thanks!
-AnimeLover^^
no, the issue there is not to download videos the way tens of utilities can do it, when flash player is used, and you get a FLV very easily out of it, but how to do it when the HTML5 tag is used instead.
This is an interesting doubt that I also have…
@Topic Is HTML5 video player the new player Youtube has? The new look? Thanks!
there’s just a new experimental player for YouTube, only usable in Chrome, Safari, and IE+Chrome Frame plugin, and this player supports HTML5. But the official YouTube player is still for now and for a while Adobe Flash Player. Flash has ruled for ages now, don’t know how long still…
Hi Logos.
Introduction to HTML5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siOHh0uzcuY
Here is a HTML5 video with the possibility to download as MP4 for iPod/PSP:
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=6754476230600345723&ei=lHNcS52AAcyP-Abb3JTPCA&q=when+the+levee+breaks&hl=nl&view=3#
Open link in a recent GoogleChrome version then play it on VLC as MP4…
polonus
Hi Polonus,
yeah I just watched that. Funny, runs perfectly in Chrome (still using flash player…I guess you need to go through the HTML5 beta page first to avoid that), and video marked as unavailable in Firefox ??? btw MP4 has been offered for a while when downloading from YouTube and FlashPlayer is running…choice is between FLV and MP4 (in HD, well what they call HD) where obviously MP4 is the royal way to avoid Flash completely ;D
edit: can’t start it anymore in Chrome either now, and that wasn’t a YouTube video anyway. So how did you manage to play it in HTML5, ie without Flash ?
Hi Logos,
That is exactly what I meant, and it proofs my point, says: The video is currently not available, try later.
And that is the hazard of embedding a link or reloading because the video player may be there and the link but video may be not available, worse scenario the video may never be available or uploaded again. I have it because I have downloaded the MP4 -36.1 MB of it. The same problems here is with searching, because the Internet is like an ever changing ocean, so you may cast your nets never to catch that fish again,
polonus
yeah but it’s never been available in Firefox, while I have actually watched it in Chrome and it’s not available anymore in Chrome now…OK but why was it never available in Firefox? This video uses Flash, no HTML 5 to be seen…
Polonus, you mind telling me why and how you called it an HTML5 video ??? thanks.
While Opera isn’t a “suported browser”, it works great with YouTube HTML5 Video Player. 8)